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Jordan Miller



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Australia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Zermatt Silver
Rear Diff

Hi all,

Just had the rear diff replaced on my 07 FL2 SE. This comes after having the dashboard replaced last year.

Anyone else encountered issues with diff or dashboard (discoloured after 6 months).

Jord..

Post #65749 7th Apr 2010 12:47 am
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mikehzz



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Aussie sun mate. I can clearly make out the air bag on the passenger side dash of my 08 model. What were the symptoms of the rear diff trouble? I have given mine a hiding and it still seems ok except the electric seats don't work anymore.
Mike

Post #65750 7th Apr 2010 1:13 am
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lem_jpm



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Stornoway Grey

Yes, had to have my rear diff replaced last year - on my 07 XS auto

Post #65755 7th Apr 2010 8:21 am
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EdSnow



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hi, i have had a new diff and after the second catastrophic failure needed a new haldex unit.

more discussion on the following thread:-

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic4782.html?highlight=

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Post #66025 10th Apr 2010 8:12 pm
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CWC9TH



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First had the diff, then the Haldex and fianlly another new diff. In the states none were available from Nov 09 to Jan of 10. Had many weeks with a loaner. I was told if the diff goes out there is a very high probrability that a Haldex will also be needed.

Post #66556 16th Apr 2010 7:39 pm
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Steve2006



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Had mine replaced about 2 months ago after 60,000 miles

They now have a fixing kit to replace the differiential, so they must realise that there is a problem with this, I had to pay £500 for this as it was out of warrenty. My argument is if they know it's a problem why aren't they recalling them? Big Cry Steve Partridge

Post #118061 25th Oct 2011 12:56 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Steve2006 wrote:
...they must realise that there is a problem with this... if they know it's a problem why aren't they recalling them?...


There isn't a real mechanical problem.
Because of the Haldex system's software, the diff's input bearing is unnecessary overloaded statically.
If the software is updated in time, the bearing isn't overloaded anymore and lives a normal life.
The idea is to update the Haldex's firmware in time.
This is automatically done through the Q106 service action on diesel automatic cars.
Otherwise through the "SSM46477 - Rear Differential Noise - SW Update"

Post #118084 25th Oct 2011 3:18 pm
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Captain Worm



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alex_pescaru wrote:


There isn't a real mechanical problem.
Because of the Haldex system's software, the diff's input bearing is unnecessary overloaded statically.
If the software is updated in time, the bearing isn't overloaded anymore and lives a normal life.


Is there nothing you dont know?? Wink


When in your opinion would you say is in time Alex?? mine had done 50k miles before Q106 and I come out of warranty on Monday Shocked should i be worried??? Are there any particular circumstances that are more likely to overload the bearing, e.g. GGS or Sand TR Modes? stop start motoring etc? Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

Post #118240 26th Oct 2011 9:10 pm
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alex_pescaru



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I believe that the bearing, with the old firmware, is working near its loading's limits.
Some will withstand the load, some wont. And of course, the failure rate, in this situation, is much greater.
So, if you haven't had problems until now, and you've done the Q106, you won't have.
Even LR said that the firmware should be changed only if you've had the bearing changed.
If not, leave it that way... Strange decision, but, who knows, maybe there are other things at work here...

Post #118247 26th Oct 2011 10:09 pm
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Whittler



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Thank you Alex Thumbs Up

As a result of your posting I could check with the main dealer that is repairing my rear diff on the 8th Nov that they are updating the firmware for the Haldex unit.

They confirmed they would be doing it and were surprised that I knew Laughing

Thanks again, brilliant info...

Andy

Post #118302 27th Oct 2011 7:56 pm
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maffs



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alex_pescaru wrote:
I believe that the bearing, with the old firmware, is working near its loading's limits.
Some will withstand the load, some wont. And of course, the failure rate, in this situation, is much greater.
So, if you haven't had problems until now, and you've done the Q106, you won't have.
Even LR said that the firmware should be changed only if you've had the bearing changed.
If not, leave it that way... Strange decision, but, who knows, maybe there are other things at work here...

There will soon be a 'Church of Alex' with Freelander owners in attendance every Sunday Smile

Post #118308 27th Oct 2011 10:03 pm
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Alex should be applauded for his enthusiasm and knowledge.
I'm amazed at his quality of tech info and his willingness to help all on this forum.
Even more so, as he lives a b Censored y long way from the UK dealership network.

So hats off to Alex Bow down Bow down Bow down

A most valuable member of this forum. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Post #118311 27th Oct 2011 11:17 pm
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I'll go along with that, in fact we should organise an event and go on a pilgrimage to Romania, just to touch him. Cool

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Post #118317 28th Oct 2011 7:15 am
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Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down Bow down
All hail the great Alex of Land Rover
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