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Ub2



Member Since: 06 Oct 2007
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Australia 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Narvik Black
Brake Controller

Hello all

Does anyone have an electric brake controller fitted?

Where did you locate it?

I am about to fit a Tekonsha prodigy but the best location appears to be mounting it vertically on the side of the centre console just below my left knee and in front of the seat. (Australians drive on the left of the road too.)

Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards Ub2
My first Landie; SE TD4 auto Sunroof, Narvik Black with Alpacca interior, towbar & rear spoiler.

Post #8138 8th Oct 2007 3:21 am
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pelyma



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Sorry we don't have such luxuries in the UK D4 HSE Lux for me
FL2 HSE Zermatt & Alpacca for the wife now gone
Skoda Yeti L&K for the wife.

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Ub2



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Hello Pelyma

Luxury? Absolute necessity and legality if as I you tow anything over 750Kg. Besides going down some of our steep and slippery hills with a 900Kg trailer fully loaded Tvan without brakes is basically suicidal.
Don't tell me you don't have any steep hills worth traversing to camp on over there!
Regards Regards Ub2
My first Landie; SE TD4 auto Sunroof, Narvik Black with Alpacca interior, towbar & rear spoiler.

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Ub2 wrote:
Hello Pelyma

Luxury? Absolute necessity and legality if as I you tow anything over 750Kg. Besides going down some of our steep and slippery hills with a 900Kg trailer fully loaded Tvan without brakes is basically suicidal.
Don't tell me you don't have any steep hills worth traversing to camp on over there!
Regards
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Ub2



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So did you take a trailer over your mountain or not? I gather from the pseudo hilarity you did not.

I also note HSE models have 18" wheels. Not a good idea off-road over here.

Now back to the original topic I asked about: Can anyone provide useful comment on brake controllers? They are a legal requirement in Australia with any trailer over 750Kg.

For a look at a real camping trailer view http://www.tracktrailer.com/ all Australian design and manufacture capable of any 4WD trip. Regards Ub2
My first Landie; SE TD4 auto Sunroof, Narvik Black with Alpacca interior, towbar & rear spoiler.

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Can I ask a dumb question.......why are 18" wheels not a good idea over there Question ______________________
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Smaller wheels have more tyre. basically more to absorb the potholes and rough roads. You don't want to go offroading in 40-profile tyres now do you!

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pelyma



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The brake system over here is a very simple one, as I understand the system you mean lets you apply the trailer brakes, rather than the over run system we use. There is no off road caravanning here, our caravans wouldn't stand up to it! D4 HSE Lux for me
FL2 HSE Zermatt & Alpacca for the wife now gone
Skoda Yeti L&K for the wife.

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djhampson



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Hi mate,

We've got the same brake controller on a D3 but that's not going to help you.

I suggest you mount it in the hole in the centre of the dash where the sat nav should be. This would make the override switch easy to reach in the event you need to use it.

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Ub2



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Thanks DJ

But no as I intend mounting my car PC, audio system & GPS there when I get it finished.

UK Dave

17" gives a much wider choice of light truck construction tyres which are much better on our flinty outback roads and as Krankyd points out gives better tread life and puncture resistance. Tyre choice is also limited when outback or in the Simpson Desert.

17" tread is also more useful than 18" for achieving floatation over mud or sand by dropping tyre pressures. Regards Ub2
My first Landie; SE TD4 auto Sunroof, Narvik Black with Alpacca interior, towbar & rear spoiler.

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I was thinking about putting a CarPC in but couldn't find a screen that would fit nicely so I put it on the backburner.

I'd be interested to see what you do tho?

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Ub2,

THanks for the reply, now I understand

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Ub2 wrote:
Hello Pelyma

Luxury? Absolute necessity and legality if as I you tow anything over 750Kg. Besides going down some of our steep and slippery hills with a 900Kg trailer fully loaded Tvan without brakes is basically suicidal.
Don't tell me you don't have any steep hills worth traversing to camp on over there!
Regards

Hi Ub2 this was taken from page 60 of this months Caravan Club Magazine.
Question. Are electric trailer brakes legal in the UK? If so, why don't we use them on caravans?
Answer Yes they are legal but they would be significantly more costly, requiring a complete redesign of the current European caravan breaking system. There is no technical reason not to do that, but manufactures would need to judge whether there is sufficient customer demand. More debatable is whether there is sufficient additional benefit from such a system over that provided by the current system, which although simple and certainly not "state of the art", performs adequately in the vast majority of circumstances and is straight forward to maintain and repair.
While it is possible to provide a more complex more sophisticated and thus more affective system, it is hard to judge whether it is necessary and worthwhile. You may see electric braking systems on caravans for North America and Australasian markets, but these will be significantly heavier than any UK market caravan is likely to be.

Hope this helps

waaxh03

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Ra



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waaxh03 wrote:

Hi Ub2 this was taken from page 60 of this months Caravan Club Magazine. [...]

Hope this helps

waaxh03


WaaxH03,

Like me, Ub2 is from Down Under - here we have real outback/offroad/bush conditions Very Happy and by law everything over 750kg needs to have brakes. Ub2 was getting a TVAN - a real offroad camper trailer - see http://www.tracktrailer.com.au. I'm also considering that or one of these http://www.kimberleykaravans.com. As you can imagine, brakes are not optional for these Smile

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[quote="Ra"]

waaxh03 wrote:

Hi Ub2 this was taken from page 60 of this months Caravan Club Magazine. [...]

Hope this helps

waaxh03


WaaxH03,

Like me, Ub2 is from Down Under - here we have real outback/offroad/bush conditions Very Happy and by law everything over 750kg needs to have brakes. Ub2 was getting a TVAN - a real offroad camper trailer - see http://www.tracktrailer.com.au. I'm also considering that or one of these http://www.kimberleykaravans.com. As you can imagine, brakes are not optional for these Smile[/quote

Ra

You mis understand. Caravans do come with brakes fitted here as standard however they are not electric ones like you have in Australia.
All but the smallest trailers need brakes as well.
I hope this ends the confusion.

waaxh03

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