Further to my question regarding tyres for my vehicle, I am still having trouble obtaining them because of shortages etc etc.
I've just seen a tyre called Insa Turbo Ranger (235/65/R17) Are these tyres any good?
My offroading, as mentioned before, consists of dirt/gravel tracks on the farm, and the occasional mucky field. Most of my driving (80%) is on road.
Would these tyres be suitable for my needs?

Thanks
Steve.

I assume you have been on the main sites like mytyres etc? There are loads in this size on there and they have goodyear wrangler ATs in which are a top tyre for what u want The missus - SD4 HSE - Black - 2012
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Well, after all the hassle of trying to get two back tyres for my vehicle, and being told by most dealers within a 40 mile radius, that 'they are on back order', I finally managed to get two from blackcircles.com.
I bought General Grabber UHP's, and, although I realise that they may not be 'offroad' tyres, they should suit my needs. As mentioned before, my offroading (while doing vermin control for farmers) consists of dirt/gravel tracks and 'not so muddy' fields.
I'm hoping that I've made a good choice, and will not regret my actions!
Also, I hope that the tyres will be delivered on Thursday, as promised. I phoned them first, and they confirmed that the tyres were in stock.

Steve.

I have been looking at the Grabber UHP's for when I replace my Wranglers. Would you post again when you've had them fitted and used them a while? It will also be interesting to see how they perform in the snow that is forecast.
My driving is 95% on road and the Grabber UHP's are supposed to be quieter than A/T's, so that would suit me. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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russben wrote:

I have been looking at the Grabber UHP's for when I replace my Wranglers. Would you post again when you've had them fitted and used them a while? It will also be interesting to see how they perform in the snow that is forecast.
My driving is 95% on road and the Grabber UHP's are supposed to be quieter than A/T's, so that would suit me.

Thanks for that. My wranglers still have a thousand miles or so left on them, so it'll be a couple of months until I change them, and they will all want changing as they are all wearing at the same rate.
Even in their worn state (3-4mm tread depth left) the Wranglers have been good in the snow, and didn't get stuck when I went for a play on quite a steep, grassy slope with 8 inches of snow.

Presumably the Grabber UHPs would be better in the wet due to the V shaped tread pattern? Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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russben wrote:

Thanks for that. My wranglers still have a thousand miles or so left on them, so it'll be a couple of months until I change them, and they will all want changing as they are all wearing at the same rate.
Even in their worn state (3-4mm tread depth left) the Wranglers have been good in the snow, and didn't get stuck when I went for a play on quite a steep, grassy slope with 8 inches of snow.

Presumably the Grabber UHPs would be better in the wet due to the V shaped tread pattern?

Have a look at the new General Grabber AT's before you decide.
Thats if you can source any I have to wait till the end of Jan for minr to arrive,
but fortunately have 2 sets of wheels which are still legal.

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There is much discussion regarding tyres but it seems that the OE tyre Pirelli Scorpion Zero never gets replaced with another.

Is this due to price , life or are they just no good?

What about the other variants of Pirelli.

I appreciate the merits of winter tyres but that is not more than 3/4 months of the year , and even then temp is often above 7 deg.

So why for mainly road driving do you need ( or do you ) some of these other tyre , Vredestein, Grabber etc etc.

Cannot speak for the Freelander 2 but on the disco 3 the OE Scorpions lastest me 18k miles and I replaced with BF Goodrich ATs, which were similar cost (maybe £20 more) BUT lastest 41k miles and did not impact the MPG

So is it just a tyre wear issue or are there other reasons not to use the scorpion zero, bearing in mind I would not be seriously off road.

Also what exactly is an all weather tyre, I know a summer tyre , a winter tyre for 7 deg and below but is different if anything , for the designation ' all weather '