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Kirby1992



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White Diesel Smoke and very lumpy in start up.

Hi all.

Ive got a 2007 (57) 2.2 Td4 with 100k. Every morning after being left overnight . It will strugle to start sometimes will start and cut out several times. This bad starting comes with lots of white smoke. The smoke has a strong diesel smell and very lumpy idle. This will clear after a few revs applied. And will run fine all day apart from drinking fuel. Alot of town driving and only getting 17mpg.

All levels are ok. Not losing oil or water.

Glow plugs have been changed. New throttle body as this was logging codes. Injectors tested and one replaced other 3 border line pass. All coded and fueling rest. Egr blanked off.

Only things i am heading towards is either a compression issue or the other injectors need replacing

Any ideas would be greatly appricated.

Thanks.

Post #381633 22nd Nov 2019 11:11 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Maybe the wideband oxygen sensor ?...
When gets old and metals inside get consumed or gets contaminated with soot, it starts to report lean combustion. This as far as those 17 MPG are concerned.

Also the cranking RPM is better to be as high as possible.
So, maybe an additional earth strap from battery to engine block and maybe even a new battery if the actual one is over 4-5 years...

Post #381634 22nd Nov 2019 11:56 pm
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Grifter



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Sorry for resurrection of an old thread, but my landy (2007 TD4 ) has almost the exact same issue…

Did you ever get it solved, if so what was it?

I’m getting a code of P169F-00

Where are the oxygen sensors on the FL2¿ and are they changeable myself?

Cheers in advance..

Post #413766 25th Oct 2021 6:22 am
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Sidthecat



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Hey, another new member, first post is a question Whistle

Post #413770 25th Oct 2021 11:44 am
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Dave47



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Are you alright Sid
bad day? Laughing DAVE.
I.A.M. F1rst Driver.
Gone 2003 Discovery TD5 Auto,
Gone 1986 Defender 90 Station Wagon
Gone 1984 Range Rover 3.5 Vogue Manual.
Gone 1970 Series 11A/3 SWB 3.5 V8 Hybrid
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Van
Gone 1966 Series 11A SWB Van
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Station Wagon,

Post #413771 25th Oct 2021 11:48 am
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Dave47



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Grifter wrote:
Sorry for resurrection of an old thread, but my landy (2007 TD4 ) has almost the exact same issue…

Did you ever get it solved, if so what was it?

I’m getting a code of P169F-00

Where are the oxygen sensors on the FL2¿ and are they changeable myself?

Cheers in advance..

Hello and welcome,
I can't give you the answer, but I'm sure one of our more knowledgeable members will be along sometime,
meanwhile why not try the search button. Very Happy DAVE.
I.A.M. F1rst Driver.
Gone 2003 Discovery TD5 Auto,
Gone 1986 Defender 90 Station Wagon
Gone 1984 Range Rover 3.5 Vogue Manual.
Gone 1970 Series 11A/3 SWB 3.5 V8 Hybrid
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Van
Gone 1966 Series 11A SWB Van
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Station Wagon,

Post #413772 25th Oct 2021 11:51 am
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Sidthecat



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Dave47 wrote:
Are you alright Sid
bad day? Laughing


Fine thanks Dave, but why do we regularly have folk appear on here with their first post being say a technical or mechanical question they need solving? No form of intro, no hello new member here . . .
Perhaps it’s just an ‘old person’ thing

Post #413785 25th Oct 2021 5:29 pm
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Jagracer



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Its a Freelander thing Sid, always problems to solve. In answer to the question, the Lambda sensor is behind the engine six inches from the Turbo connection. Its easier to drop the whole exhaust to do it. A big clamp on the turbo, and six rubber rings. Heat it up with an accetalene torch before trying to turn it. Don't forget the electrical plug at the centre top at the back of the cylinder head first.

Post #413798 25th Oct 2021 9:04 pm
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Grifter



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Apologies for not saying HI as a new member, was outside, head under the bonnet, swearing and drinking cold tea when I asked the question from my phone….. manners and hot tea now both back in force!

Thanks for the info, it sounds like a garage job for the o2 sensor…

I tried cleaning the MAP, MAF and changing the fuel filter yesterday, so will see if that helps too. Definitely getting very low fuel consumption….

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jules



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"was outside, head under the bonnet, swearing and drinking cold tea"
Sounds familiar Laughing
Welcome Jules

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