Love the predictive text error in the opening line - would that be Apple pie phone

SWalker wrote:

yep same issue here the pie phone 11 would drop out not connect randomly but did pair ok - I hooked up a Blackberry for a while and the wife wouldn't admit it was fine lol, she now has a 12 bu ti haven't tried to connect it yet. Sounds like there is no point.
I don't like apple and their planned obsolescence - doesn't really fit with today's shifting attitude reverting back to make do and mend < i am not that old but lots of respect for that period/ people. so many owe so much to so few...

I get peoples aversion to iPhone, my main beef with them is that they’re too expensive, however I use one because of the fantastic camera and seamless integration with iPad for design/creative bits and pieces. I used to be narked about the obsolescence factor/slowing the phones but i’m pretty sure they don’t that now, yeah they stop updating the OS after a period but so do droid I thought?.

Outside of art/design I’m fully for make do and mend, my last car was a 19 year old Audi I maintained myself but it became let’s say, uneconomical to repair.. Gutted ‘cause I loved that car, pretty made up with the Landy though, softens the blow somewhat

no typo lol pie phones lol,
the planned obsolescence goes further than the "battery management" software , this thread is a typical example doesn't do backwards compatibility - yeah we have to move on and drop support but to actively exclude that's different, and rampant within apple itself.

Anytime the wife wants a good picture she reaches for my Samsung...

But yeah she has the ipad pro and it has paid for itself as she uses it rather than just having it for the craic, She is an ICT teacher - before she had to print mark and scan 300 odd page assignments per 30 odd pupils now she does it al on the ipad. so when it can be justified not an issue.

I used to be a big blackberry man, there were a tool -and put them selves out there, all the ideas that Blackberry broke into the market with and didnt get payback ended them as apple took advantage and ran - LOL look at that phone where the screen is a button, wow touch screen apple phone, LOL look at that tiny playbook - wow ipad mini. so on and so forth

LOL Stewart
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You’re right though, I can’t say as I’m impressed by apples lack of reverse compatibility, can’t lie!

It’d be so easy.. after all, droid handsets manage it.

That’s rampant capitalism for ya.

Out of curiosity, when my daughter stopped by this morning we tried pairing her iPhone XR with our 2008 FL2. It connected without any problem whatsoever. The head unit generated a pin code to enter on the iPhone and that was it.

I think the XR is an older phone though? Not sure it’s an Apple issue, more the LR technology

The XR is a current phone, first introduced in October 2018.

I've never had an issue with a Samsung Galaxy S or Note device in a decade. Camera is always top notch, battery management is perfect, and software updates are supported for years.

They are always backwards compatible, and fully functional with a standard Windows PC, so they are the ideal device to keep in your pocket. You can even hook them up to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and use it as a PC, the DEX software working with Windows office files out the box.

I've never got into the whole Apple ecosystem, simply because it's too restrictive and incompatible with anything else. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
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Methinks he doth protest too much!

Tbh I can see why it’s a polarising subject!

Simon J wrote:

Out of curiosity, when my daughter stopped by this morning we tried pairing her iPhone XR with our 2008 FL2. It connected without any problem whatsoever. The head unit generated a pin code to enter on the iPhone and that was it.

Argh don’t tell me that Simon, you’ll give me hope!

A quick look at the iPhone specs shows that both the 12 and XR have Bluetooth 5.0 so on the face of it, if the XR connects you’d think the 12 would do so as well. My own phone is an old SE and it has Bluetooth 4.2 and it also connects. By and large, I think Bluetooth for phone connections like this tends to be backwards compatible and I doubt if the Apple software interferes with it. Apple does of course use Bluetooth for its tracking capability but again, I’d doubt that that would interfere with regular phone connections.

I use an iPhone 11 in my 2008 HSE and it connects without difficulty. There is an issue, though, with microphone pickup in the car. This has always been a problem - I can hear callers perfectly, but they struggle to hear me. Several different phones have been tried and the in-car microphone replaced, all without any improvement. I wish that I could improve this aspect.

Simon J wrote:

The XR is a current phone, first introduced in October 2018.

But it still has the same Bluetooth spec, i.e. 5.0, as the 12 so there doesn’t seem, on the face of it, to be any reason why a 12 wouldn’t connect.