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Safeman23



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Land Rover FL2 diagnostics session and report

Just had a near side drive shaft and wheel bearing fail. They were changed just 3 month ago!! GKN drive shaft and a OEM bearing. The chap who did the assessment was a Land Rover tech person. No issue with the failure. He also said the clutch needs changing as the pedal position is too high . The clutch was changed only 3 months ago!! The parts used were LUK full set. His decision was arrived at after me taking an interest in a replacement car with the salesperson who went and spoke to the Tech guy.

My question is:- is LUK a trusted make?
Are there any circumstances where a clutch would wear out in 3 months.
What should the bite point be for new full set ( pressure plate friction plate, DMF and slave).

Is this another case of LR dealers doing their thing. Or is this a symptom of something drastically wrong with the car?

Any help here would be appreciated

Many Thanks

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GundogSD4



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That sounds like a case of stealer BS Rolling Eyes

A while ago I had to take a VW in for a recall and the sales advisor informed me that my car will undergo a "FREE" health check while it is in the workshop, on returning to collect the car I was shown the heath check report carried out buy the Technician and it stated that I required four new tyres and front brake pads, Very strange I said as the car had the front discs and pads and four new tyres replaced two weeks ago... Censored


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Dave47



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LUK clutch parts are stock by a lot of established dealers,
been around for a long time, so I feel Gundog is right on the button, BS

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BossBob



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LUK or more properly Jaguar Land Rover, don’t make bearings, so they would have bought in a bearing that meets the specifications that makes them the best margin, otherwise known as the cheapest!

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Dartman the one



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Is this a different car, SD4's don't have clutches Question my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

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Safeman23



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Thanks all

I had my suspicions the tech guy was asked to ramp up the anti. Its disgraceful for such a prestigious dealership to act this way.

Chris

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oldgeezer



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Just depends on where the LUk clutch was purchased from.
There are a lot of fake and copies and companies that box any thing in a box !

LUK genuine are brilliant, but many copies from china, cheap as chips and half the motor trade don't seem to know the difference. If its in a reputable box that's all they seem to care about ! Jaguar x-type sport gone
Jaguar x-type 2.2d sport one of my best cars ever sadly gone
Freelander 2 GS auto 2008 most unreliable ever ! gladly gone
Freelander 2 GS manual 2013 only time will tell !

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ReggiePerrin



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Safeman23 wrote:
Thanks all

I had my suspicions the tech guy was asked to ramp up the anti. Its disgraceful for such a prestigious dealership to act this way.

Chris


No surprise there at all... Same thing with car in for service and MoT test with a well known national LR dealership (Service Contract with 50% of normal price MoT test). Service done & late in the day they call to say all done but MoT fail on brake discs but don't worry sir, we can do the discs and pads while we have the car and you’ll pass the MoT and get the car back today. That'll be £silly money, Cheers Easy.

The existing discs were fine and the pads were not far from new. I let them fail it, Made the complaint and was told that it was what the technician saw on the day. For that, they lost a three year service contract sale which was due for renewal following the service that the car was in for and they lost a regular customer.

When car sales are slow the workshop has to contribute more by whatever means they can... fictitious faults entailing costly repairs are an easy source of revenue.

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GundogSD4



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This kind of carry on is not confined to LR they are all at it, I had the misfortune to work in the Car industry for a short while and was shocked at the contempt that the dealerships hold for the customers, I once heard a salesman bragging with great pride to the other sales people how he had worked a terrible finance deal into a customer needless to say I left and went back to the Motorcycle industry where on the whole the staff tend to be far less cynical and nasty.
Remember Car dealers and Estate agents have worked very hard to achieve the reputation they have earned Rolling Eyes

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Jimboland



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At a well known firm of tyre fitters I was told my Citroen BX needed new shock absorbers as they do to all customers. He said shock absorbers although they are nothing of the sort, they are dampers. Anyway, I asked him for a price to fit them all round and if he would fit genuine Citroen "shock absorbers". He did look at his parts lists but somehow failed to find the parts but wouldn't accept that the Citroen hydraulic suspension system doesn't have either shock absorbers or dampers and tried to fob me off by claiming the parts had been discontinued.

J

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Dartman the one wrote:
Is this a different car, SD4's don't have clutches Question


I thought that, as the signature says auto ?? Neutral


Sheep If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Safeman23 wrote:
Thanks all

I had my suspicions the tech guy was asked to ramp up the anti. Its disgraceful for such a prestigious dealership to act this way.

Chris


I’d tell them to take it as it is at the original price (or the “perfect” price) or I would walk, it’s just a dealer’s scam. Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

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Dartman the one



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Take it was that well known Inverness dealer, wasn't impressed when I had the miss fortune to lose a steering pump on a a TDi 300 at 1month old with their attitude and needed to involve LR customer service to get sorted. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

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Kage



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Re: Land Rover FL2 diagnostics session and report

[quote="Safeman23"]He also said the clutch needs changing as the pedal position is too high

So which pedal was he referring to?

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