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dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4341

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

Eicher Bosch Pagid or Brembo ?

Any preferencies or views on brake pads ? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

16th Feb 2023 12:11 pm

I Like Chips

Member Since: 25 Jun 2017
Location: Ascott Under Wychwood
Posts: 1439

2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

I believe Eicher is ECP own brand, been told not to use them by someone who works for ECP!

16th Feb 2023 12:25 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4573

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Ive got EBC on my brake conversion (316mm disks).
Ive also used Tarox brake pads on my old Beemer and rate them highly; I thought they were better than Brembo ones I once had.

IIRC the brake pads for TD4,SD4 and i6 are all the same. Jules

Last edited by jules on 16th Feb 2023 5:27 pm. Edited 1 time in total

16th Feb 2023 1:02 pm

PRadd

Member Since: 09 Apr 2020
Location: East Lancs
Posts: 353

2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Dynamic Manual Santorini Black

I found the genuine LR ones I got along with discs from Duckworths to be very good, and avoided pitfalls of many sites with aftermarket offerings who couldn't seem to agree what size things were.... 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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16th Feb 2023 1:12 pm

Nodge68

Member Since: 15 Jul 2020
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1827

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

I Like Chips wrote:
I believe Eicher is ECP own brand, been told not to use them by someone who works for ECP!

I used what Advanced Factors supplied. Einbach IIRC, they've been ok for the last 2 years, not that the mileage has been high. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
Hyundai Ionic 5 Ultimate on order.
Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE.

16th Feb 2023 2:54 pm

p_gill

Member Since: 06 Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1219

2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

I use these

https://ebcbrakes.com/products/ebc-greenstuff-elite-brake-pads/

And I would only get GG rated pads

The letters indicate the Friction coefficient at 121C and 315C

GG has a high coefficient of friction and your Freelander 2 is likely about the same weight as my LR2 and I have the bigger factory brakes. The pedal effort on my LR2 is excellent. My daughters friend drove it the other day and she was very impressed with the brakes. My LR2 is in very good working condition for a 15 year old vehicle.

More information

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic36626-15.html

Take care

Paul

16th Feb 2023 5:22 pm

merlinj79

Member Since: 14 Aug 2019
Location: San Diego
Posts: 315

How dusty are the greenstuff elites?

"Less dust than OEM" isn't saying much in the case of an LR2.

I've been using Akebono ceramics to minimize dust, always had a slight concern with towing but not problems so far.

16th Feb 2023 8:26 pm

MartynB

Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: Currently Rootless !
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2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

Akebono Ceramic are standard fit on Subaru and are excellent , very clean , but I could not obtain them for the Fl2 . EBC would be my choice . I’ve used various grades of them on everything from the FL2 , Defenders and Superbikes , 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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16th Feb 2023 9:45 pm

p_gill

Member Since: 06 Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1219

merlinj79 wrote:
How dusty are the greenstuff elites?

"Less dust than OEM" isn't saying much in the case of an LR2.

I've been using Akebono ceramics to minimize dust, always had a slight concern with towing but not problems so far.

Brake Dust is very subjective.

Some people will insist that their pads aren't dusty but a WHITE GLOVE will indicate otherwise.

My Audi A4 with REDSTUFF seems worse even though EBC rates it better than the GREENSTUFF. But that is likely because I have S4 brakes and my Audi will stop very quickly. If I drove it gently then it would likely have less dust than the LR2.

From my perspective the GREENSTUFF dust is more GRAY than BLACK but it does stick to my Silver wheels.
So it isn't obvious but if you are looking for it it is there.

My daily driver is a PLUG IN HYBRID and it prioritizes recharging the battery vs friction braking and my wheels are dusty from the friction brakes that are hardly used.

Good Luck

Paul

16th Feb 2023 10:55 pm

merlinj79

Member Since: 14 Aug 2019
Location: San Diego
Posts: 315

OEM pads are very, very dusty on this car, to an almost ridiculous degree compared to most other cars. I would feel compelled to hose them off between car washes.

The ceramics generate much less, but of course there's still some. Just wondering if the greenstuff is better than OEM in that regard.

I use redstuff on another car, and it's fine in that regard, but the LR2 front brakes are much larger than my TSX.

17th Feb 2023 5:38 pm

p_gill

Member Since: 06 Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1219

Merlin,

If you have tried the REDSTUFF and you like them then the GREENSTUFF won't disappoint you.

The dust isn't black like the OEM pads but it is still there.

If the pass/fail is do the wheels look bad enough that I would clean them before the whole vehicle needs a wash?

EBC.....GREEN/RED/ULTIMAX......... PASS
OEM............................................FAIL

Just my $0.02

I may be a bit biased........my shelf has several sets of EBC pads for different cars just waiting for the day that they are needed.

Good luck and let us know if you try out the GREENSTUFF

Thanks

Paul

17th Feb 2023 8:30 pm

p_gill

Member Since: 06 Dec 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1219

The OEM wheels are very difficult to keep clean.

I solved that problem with some XC60/XC70 wheels.

Only six spokes.

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17th Feb 2023 8:38 pm

dorsetfreelander

Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
Location: Dorset
Posts: 4341

Interesting end to my brake pads saga. I decided to go for Pagid and discovered that Euro car parts want about £50 for a set of front pads whilst Halfords charge £26.59 so I ordered from Halfords. When I picked them up the guy said that they get them from Euro car parts! Interesting how these businesses operate and how their pricing works! 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

25th Feb 2023 10:28 am

I Like Chips

Member Since: 25 Jun 2017
Location: Ascott Under Wychwood
Posts: 1439

Yes Halfords do get their car parts from ECP The ECP van is often at the back of the store, I have been told that ECP have a four tier pricing the cheapest being available to the largest buyers to the most costly being the ordinary purchaser

25th Feb 2023 10:33 pm

ozjeff62

Member Since: 28 May 2018
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 494

2011 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Ipanema Sand

p_gill wrote:
The OEM wheels are very difficult to keep clean.

I solved that problem with some XC60/XC70 wheels.

Only six spokes.

I like those very much. I have XC wheels as well, but not as good looking MY11 SD4 SE Auto

26th Feb 2023 2:49 am

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