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Doc



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wtf's an 'Oil Service' mean in the log book?

2011 SD4 SE, one owner, LR approved servicing
Most regular log book history I've found so far BUT every single service has been ticked 'Oil Service' Confused
A and B have never been ticked in the log book


What exactly is an oil service and how the hell does it differ from an A and B service?



'Oil Service' been done at:

    24,000km
    36,000km
    47,000km
    57,000km
    69,000km
    78,000km
    90,000km
    102,000km
    116,000km
    156,000km Shocked I've asked about this gap. Not sure if the workshop stopped logging.

Post #380204 24th Oct 2019 12:44 pm
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ozjeff62



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Australia 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Ipanema Sand

A euphemism for SFA?

A cheapskate (or canny) owner that would only pay for fluids actually being changed and an OBD reading rather than all the 'checks' dealers use to beef up the billable time?

An empty logbook that has been doctored?

An honest workshop that considers the A and B to be crap and just fluids and an OBD reading to be done. That would potentially miss service campaigns and software updates, however.

Ask plenty of questions, Doc. MY11 SD4 SE Auto

Post #380209 24th Oct 2019 1:56 pm
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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver

I have a service book with a C service ticked . . . . . . !!


Its years since people got real services on a car, earlier this century, I used to have a mechanic who would service the car then finish off by greasing all the locks and even check all the tyre pressures . . . Bow down

Never ever seen any sign of anyone greasing the locks since I left that garage/area. 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
2007 HSE with HST bodykit in Zermatt Silver 169,700 miles (dec 2016 - May 2022 )
2007 Honda Civic Type S GT (2012-2017)
2002 Mini Cooper S (2008-2012)
1992 Honda Legend 3.2i (2003-2008)
1990 Honda Concerto (1999-2003)
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1983 Honda Accord (1993-1997)
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RogB



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on a full service my local indy greases all the hinges and locks, strips the brakes to inspect, clean, and coppergrease them, and they have the tools to access service logs to do OSH, BMW key history etc etc.

mind you, his prices arent far short of main dealer prices, although he fits quality OEM or manufacturer parts as standard i.e. only Bosch brake discs and pads. Unless you specifically tell him to fit to a budget.

Post #380211 24th Oct 2019 2:26 pm
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Doc



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All these log book entries I'm encountering are done by legit LR workshops, but the entries are sloppy as Censored.
Half the time they forget to tick anything or write what appears to be an incorrect date. Pretty sure the books aren't fake.

I can't work out if an 'Oil Service' is supposed to be a lesser service than the alternating A and B service, or if it's supposed to be done in addition to one of those. And perhaps some of the mechanics can't work it out either. I seem to remember some of the books had double ticks (e.g. A + Oil Service).

On a positive note, oil changes every 6 months is great. Pity it may have come at the 'cost' of an actual Censored service!

Rolling Eyes

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Steve D



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Stamps in service books don’t count for much in my mind unless accompanied by a dated VAT or parts receipt. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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JonMs



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

I have a 2011 SD which does a fairly low mileage and therefore only needs annual servicing. However, regular DPF regeneration results in oil dilution which means that tbe "oil service" warning comes on before the year is up. In theory this means that an oil change is required IN ADDITION to the annual service.

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Doc



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In theory this means that an oil change is required IN ADDITION to the annual service.

And yet, in practice, there's not a single tick in the A or B box of this log book. Very strange.
Perhaps this particular LR indie is overly casual or didn't want to waste another two seconds. Hmm.

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Many years ago I bought a Ford Capri from a Ford dealer that was about a year old. The service book wasn't in the car so the dealer said that they would look around for it and the car had just been serviced anyway. Sure enough a few days later the service book arrived in the post all nicely stamped up etc. OK so far then after a few months I found the original service book wedged under one of the seats ! It too was all stamped up but with different mileages and dates. I suppose these days I would have gone to Trading Standards and kicked up a fuss but I didn't follow it up as the car was fine. Since then I have taken little notice of service history unless accompanied by receipts. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
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Post #380242 25th Oct 2019 11:03 am
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Doc



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after a few months I found the original service book wedged under one of the seats

Rolling with laughter
Gotta love dealers.

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Doc



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And, God, you've had a lot of Freelanders, Dorset!
Shocked

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Northcroft wrote:
Its years since people got real services on a car, earlier this century, I used to have a mechanic who would service the car then finish off by greasing all the locks and even check all the tyre pressures . . . Bow down

My independent mechanic did, as the doors were a bit squeaky & stiff due to the outback dust, smooth as silk when I picked up the car.

He also took the TPMS off & upped the pressure 2psi. Wasn't really necessary as the weather was colder by about 2psi. He even checks the spare even though he knows I have 3 compressors, air tank & regulator in the car.
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dorsetfreelander



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Doc wrote:
And, God, you've had a lot of Freelanders, Dorset!
Shocked


Actually not all mine but some were my son's so in the same household. There is actually another one owned by my brother in law who is a dairy farmer. It's a 2009 GS with 160k+ miles on it. Apart from some recent work on the rear brake shoes it's been faultless. Out of ours the most reliable was the 2008 and the recent 2014 models. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

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