The beginning of the queue was crawling along and further up there was movement whenever the lights changed and the flow began. Could have merged successfully very easily, safely and slowly if not for blockers LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Your story changes more times than Kylie does in concert . Let’s have the dashcam footage to prove you are not a queue jumping cockwomble  2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Oh run along. The only cockwombles are those who cannot accept the Highway Code guidance and say that leaving a lane completely unused is good and that blocking people is also good.

I wonder who that could be... LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Sounds like the Doc knows that he made a mistake and is annoyed with himself, but is trying gain some support ? 😄😄

Iain

No mistake here. Any simple research shows arguments to the contrary are comedy gold

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/

http://blog.greenflag.com/2019/the-zip-merging-debate/ LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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The original question was about merging (like a zip) when road narrows. I still believe that the answer is yes.

The overall purpose of travelling is to get to your destination safely and in a reasonable time. There is enough hassle on the road without making life worse by either, cutting in last moment, or driving to block someone joining the traffic lane.

If we do not use all the lanes available, and drive to smooth the traffic flow, we will all get to our destinations slower.

A tip for those who feel that they must be at the front of the queue --- Slow Down.
For years I had to travel around (mainly) Southern England for my job. I was always coming up to the backs of queues.
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Because the general driving public are “stupid” and have not respect for others. So there I said it! easy!🙄
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iain cooper wrote:

Sounds like the Doc knows that he made a mistake and is annoyed with himself, but is trying gain some support ? 😄😄

Iain

100% correct . He hasn't got the to look at himself and think that he behaved like at .

The only joyous fact is that with such an attitude that he is infallible in every driving situation , one day he will probably come into physical contact with another vehicle/ motorist . Even then he will be righteous whether the damage is to his car or his nose , because the Highway Code section 134 is his bible ,and will probably know off by heart the law on road rage and common assault ( unfortunately knows now't about common sense, awareness and dynamic risk assessment) . It's a knocking bet we won't get to see the dashcam when that happens .

It's interesting that he isn't getting the universal response he wanted , but he's not going to learn anything from that is he , because he's the Doctor .... He's always right ! 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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dont overtake queues, unless that lane is going elsewere, its just rude.

Simple manners, no need to quote highway code blah blah, Use the rules of life, Not twist a rule book to suit your needs.


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What’s sadly lacking on today’s roads is courtesy. Few motorists let you out at junctions. Instead they would rather block it so no one gets in front of them. Too many in too big a hurry. Just yesterday I had a guy in a Golf sit on my bumper trying to overtake on a single carriageway road. There was eventually a gap in oncoming traffic for him to overtake which he did only to travel about 300 yards then turn left.

As for two lanes merging into one there is always loads of prior notice unless it’s an RTC. There is no excuse for drivers racing up the outside lane to the point where the lane is no longer wide enough for their car and then try to force their way in. It’s called road craft - read the signs and the road ahead, anticipate what other drivers might do, indicate early etc.

I would rather get there safely and five minutes late than never arrive.

My father gave me a great piece of advice when I was a learner - treat every other road user like an idiot.

Oh and the Highway Code is mostly guidance not law.

MartynB wrote:

iain cooper wrote:

Sounds like the Doc knows that he made a mistake and is annoyed with himself, but is trying gain some support ? 😄😄

Iain

100% correct . He hasn't got the to look at himself and think that he behaved like at .

The only joyous fact is that with such an attitude that he is infallible in every driving situation , one day he will probably come into physical contact with another vehicle/ motorist . Even then he will be righteous whether the damage is to his car or his nose , because the Highway Code section 134 is his bible ,and will probably know off by heart the law on road rage and common assault ( unfortunately knows now't about common sense, awareness and dynamic risk assessment) . It's a knocking bet we won't get to see the dashcam when that happens .

It's interesting that he isn't getting the universal response he wanted , but he's not going to learn anything from that is he , because he's the Doctor .... He's always right !

You are a joke. Why don’t you do everyone a favour and off

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I would avoid starting to attack one and other personally, and stick to the question in hand.

Please, as this is an interesting thread.

Today I noticed on a main road near Glastonbury, that the road had been deliberately widened to 2 lanes at a traffic light controlled junction for a couple of hundred yards only. I take it that this had been done to increase and ease the flow during the green phase. Without people using this lane, and then merging back, the traffic management planning (and cost) will have been a waste of time. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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Yes Ian but that is a dynamic situation whereas the doc was in a static situation - major difference. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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There’s no difference at all. People who leave a lane empty are wrong. FACT not opinion. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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MartynB wrote:

iain cooper wrote:

Sounds like the Doc knows that he made a mistake and is annoyed with himself, but is trying gain some support ? 😄😄

Iain

100% correct . He hasn't got the to look at himself and think that he behaved like at .

The only joyous fact is that with such an attitude that he is infallible in every driving situation , one day he will probably come into physical contact with another vehicle/ motorist . Even then he will be righteous whether the damage is to his car or his nose , because the Highway Code section 134 is his bible ,and will probably know off by heart the law on road rage and common assault ( unfortunately knows now't about common sense, awareness and dynamic risk assessment) . It's a knocking bet we won't get to see the dashcam when that happens .

It's interesting that he isn't getting the universal response he wanted , but he's not going to learn anything from that is he , because he's the Doctor .... He's always right !

You are a joke. Why don’t you do everyone a favour and off

Your posts have no foundation. I’ve proved you wrong and you keep advocating violating the rules of the road. Absolutely priceless

I certainly won’t off Oh great galactic law bringer .... but what I do know is that when a person resorts to telling another to off then they generally know that have lost the arguement


I represent the Sheep and Buffoons whom you despise , I am the tip of their spear to burst your balloon of legal quoting pomposity

Ps have you actually counted up how many people disagree with you ??? 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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