When I got my Freelander it had different tyres front to rear (Avon front, Cooper rear) which did not bother me too much as they looked fairly new so left them on. Recently one of the rears got a cut in the tread about 75mm long so I decided it was time to fit 4 the same. I finally decided on Pirelli Scorpion Verde (235/60/18 ) I've done about 600 mls now on them and everything seems OK but the main thing I have noticed is on a trip to Manchester at the weekend I averaged 4 mpg more than with the other tyre combined (brim to brim method). I do this trip on a regular basis only got 36mpg usually so to get 40.1 on this trip was a real surprise and I can only put it down to the tyre change.

If you look on any tyre sales site, by law it has to give you a 'score' against the tyre economy, wet grip and a dB rating.

https://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/tyres/brand...18-107V-xl

Your tyres are rated C/C/71dB. A is best so yours are around mid range. They are not underinflated are they?

Mmm and if you look they are very crafty not to make a tyre that scores high on all points, as no one would buy any of the others if they did.
They could make a tyre that lasted the life of the car these days Im sure, but they wont, same as the invention that allows a car to run on rain water, the idea was bought up and then shelved by those who make the fuel.

Like many things, weed killer for instance, you end up buying 2 different types to cater for your sort of weed, they wont mix it together in one bottle so they can sell you two bottles instead.

How are those new tires? Thinking of getting the same ones but does not seem to be to much about them, the over all ratting seems good on paper but the real life report would be greatfully recived


Dan Freelander 57 plate XS Blue Auto

Landiroamer wrote:

Mmm and if you look they are very crafty not to make a tyre that scores high on all points, as no one would buy any of the others if they did.
They could make a tyre that lasted the life of the car these days Im sure, but they wont, same as the invention that allows a car to run on rain water, the idea was bought up and then shelved by those who make the fuel.

Like many things, weed killer for instance, you end up buying 2 different types to cater for your sort of weed, they wont mix it together in one bottle so they can sell you two bottles instead.

A car that runs on rainwater? You'll be telling us that they didn't land on the moon, 9-11 was orchestrated by the American government and that Elvis is alive and kicking next.

I don't think it's so much that they can make a tyre that lasts the life of the car but won't, but I would imagine tyres that have good grip in the wet may not be terribly fuel efficient and those that are fuel efficient may not have the best grip. You just have to make that choice when you buy a tyre - whether you want high mileage, good wet grip, good off-road grip, fuel efficiency, good grip in the snow, quiet running etc. etc. No tyre could possibly be good at all those things.

Offshore1987 wrote:

How are those new tires? Thinking of getting the same ones but does not seem to be to much about them, the over all ratting seems good on paper but the real life report would be greatfully recived


Dan

Landiroamer wrote:

, same as the invention that allows a car to run on rain water, the idea was bought up and then shelved by those who make the fuel.
.

https://ec.europa.eu/research/environment/...894_en.htm

Not rain water, but close

D-Man wrote:

Offshore1987 wrote:

How are those new tires? Thinking of getting the same ones but does not seem to be to much about them, the over all ratting seems good on paper but the real life report would be greatfully recived


Dan

I've got Scorpion Verdes fitted and am very pleased with them. Haven't been off-road with them except a couple of wet grass fields where they were fine. On road they're pretty quiet, have good grip in the dry and very good in the wet.

Hole that helps.

Dave

Cheers Dave that's good to hear

Dan Freelander 57 plate XS Blue Auto

+1 for the verdes, they work well.

I too noticed an improvement in MPG, and have done since fitting in March.  MY2014 SD4 XS
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Rolling reatistance is at it's lowest when new and increases as the tread wears.
As your tread wears your wet weather grip decreases as the tyre looses the ability to pump the water away from the contact patch leading to the phenomenon known as "aquaplaning". MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

If rolling resistance is at its lowest when the tyre is new, shouldn't the OP be getting BETTER fuel economy compared to his old tyres, not less?

The OP isn't terribly clear but I think he's saying he is getting better mpg..

Kemaro wrote:

Not rain water, but close

Yes, I am getting more miles to the gallon with the new tyres.