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okenkou



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e S Manual Sumatra Black
Any SDD/CCF Expert in and around Lancashire or nearby

Long Story short, bought an 2010 S Spec car which had a fire in the OSR. Came across a bodyshop who was breaking a 2009 HSE Spec whose engine had gone and the customer didnt pay his bills and as I start pulling out what I needed in 1 quarter of the car for some bizarre reason and impulsiveness I decided to buy the full internals complete along with a few other things so the full wiring loom, sat nav, steering wheel with stalks, shark fin, windscreen sensor, etc etc. Not got anything from the engine bay apart from what looks like another ecu just behind the battery.

So have a massive job on ive stripped the breaking car completely including all modules etc. and am half way through stripping mine.

I can put all the new wiring in place in mine as well as the speedo etc, but I will need someone to do the necessities to get it working and switch on the HSE components. As such is there anyone on the forum whose local to Blackburn, Lancs or within a decent distance who can help us out (West Yorkshires ok too)

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okenkou



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Lancashire based Gurus

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Anyone out there!!

Will obviously pay for the expertise Bow down

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Stuartc



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Did you get the CJB that was part of the donor wiring?
Modules like the CJB, PCM, IPC etc are vin locked. MY15
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Post #300160 6th Jun 2016 11:28 am
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okenkou



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Got everything I could, Cars still there so anything missing could still get.

At the moment I have now pulled off the internal wiring from mine include the fuse box in the rear tyre well and the white/clear box in the passenger foot well (am presuming this is the CJB). Basically the full wiring loom with Bluetooth/AM box in the rear, Sat Nav DVD below drivers seat etc.

On my S Spec in front of the CJB was a separate metal module not found on the donar not sure what that was.

IS this still workable or am I best off using my own CJB. Although I have the donar cars ECU from teh engine bay. I have not changed this over yet.

PS. NOt sure if my defination of CJB is the correct one I am assume the box in the passenger footwell is the CJB.

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Stuartc



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Yes, CJB/fuses is in the passenger footwell.
Are both vehicles same transmission?
Are both cars same or similar MY?
I would also be taking all modules/wiring from the engine compartment.
I can't say for certain what you are doing will/won't work but to stand the best chance you need to take all of the harnesses including the modules attached.
Sound like an interesting project though.

EDIT! Are both vehicles start/stop? Not sure about 2010 models but in later models the module responsible for start/stop is in the same area as the voltage monitoring module, HVAC air intake area. MY15
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pab



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If you replace all of your wiring and ECUs with those from the donor car you shouldn't need to program them as everything will already be switched on. BUT, you will also inherit the donor car's identity, including its mileage reading. I'm not sure what the legal implications of that would be, but it's something to bear in mind. You may also have problems as some components will be of a different specification from that expected by the HSE ECUs (aircon, audio, terrain response, etc).

As Stuart says, many modules are locked to the vehicle, so using a mix of modules from both cars may be problematic.

If you were to transfer all the ECUs it would be interesting to see whether you then ended up with full terrain response (assuming it wasn't fitted to your S in the first place).

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okenkou



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Interesting! thats one way of putting it Laughing bloody hard work, cuts and swollen fingers as hard evidence!!

is there anyway of unlocking the vin locked components?

Yes mine is 2010 (original S Spec) Donor was 2009 HSE. same engine with Stop/Start with Manual. Was trying to stay away from the Engine Bay to be honest as the wiring loom on that side seems like a nightmare to put back in without taking out the engine!! and would have thought there wouldn't be anything different on that side apart from the wiring for the parking sensors/washer jets and heated windscreen.

I dont have the heated windscreen so not going to change that. Not sure about the front parking sensors. unfortunatly he already sold off the front bumper, but I have found another one cheap with parking sensors/washer jets, not checked yet if the wiring is already there on mine at the front. IS there a parking module at the front anyway. I found a Park Assist Module at the back which I hav eput in mine along with the rear bumper with sensors.

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okenkou



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Thanks PAB. (See your from the Pennines, anything chance you have the necessary diagnostics etc to get hands on with this if required?) What other ECU's/Modules are there.

So I have done the following so far:

1. Switched over the full heater Matrix (This looked different to mine due to full climate control on the HSE)
2. Steering Column and Steering Wheel disconnected from knuckle and fitted to mine.
3. Rear Fuse Box, CJB from donor Car (Mine had an additional metal module fitted on top of the CJB, this wasnt on the HSE, what is this compenent?
4. I have the Speedo and all Audio/Heating Controls. inc Sat Nav Box under drivers seats. CD Changer etc.
5. Yes I do have the terrain control switch.
6. Have the full leather seats with all the mdoules under the seats.
7. Amp and Bluetooth in the Rear.
8. Shark Fin (Need to cut holes in the roof for this.

Thing is if I change the ecu over then my key will no longer work as it will be expecting the donar cars key. and not sure if he still has it. Will ask him, hoepfully he has although after I pulled out what I needed he clefted the car on top of a 2 other cars ready to take it to be crushed. Although he did say he will hold on to it for another week or so just in case I need anything from the engine bay.

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Stuartc



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Vin locked ECU's can be unlocked but it's far easier to make sure the ECU's locked to the donor car/CJB come along with the wiring.
Parking module is in passenger rear compartment and front sensors are part of the front fog light harness. There's two part numbers for this harness - with seniors and without sensors so it's easy to put them in, I suggest you concentrate on the hard stuff first and leave this one to when you have nothing else to do! Laughing Shocked
A rewind! - the CJB is the "master" and all the engine, drivetrain and body control ECU's are controlled from the CJB.
If it were me I would get all wiring from engine bay and any modules attached to it.
HVAC, ICE, Phone, Bluetooth etc can all be configured once all wiring/modules are in via CCF. That in itself is an interesting job, I'd love to help if I was closer! MY15
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Stuartc



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"The donor car is being taken away in about a week"!

If it was me I would be stripping everything off it now because when it's gone it will be too late!

When it's a bare shell and taken away I would then concentrate on the
Jigsaw puzzle at yours! Thumbs Up

Great project! Don't give up in sure you'll get it working eventually!

Ps. You can reprogram keys so that's not a problem. MY15
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Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
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pab



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

okenkou wrote:
See your from the Pennines, anything chance you have the necessary diagnostics etc to get hands on with this if required?

Sorry, no, nor do I know anyone with suitable kit.

Note, btw, that the earlier FL2 keys cannot be reprogrammed - you would need to program new keys to the car which would also require diagnostic gear as well as new unprogrammed keys.

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okenkou



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Stuartc wrote:


Great project! Don't give up in sure you'll get it working eventually!



Laughing I have already gone through a range of emotions on this. I left to pick up a osr light and some wiring that I could hard wire up from the side that burnt and came back 10 hours later with a van full of interior and wiring looms, heater matrix etc. Shouldv'e seen the wifes face.

Not sure what she will say when she sees me drilling into the roof to fit the Shark Fin Aerial !!

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Stuartc



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pab wrote:
okenkou wrote:
See your from the Pennines, anything chance you have the necessary diagnostics etc to get hands on with this if required?

Sorry, no, nor do I know anyone with suitable kit.

Note, btw, that the earlier FL2 keys cannot be reprogrammed - you would need to program new keys to the car which would also require diagnostic gear as well as new unprogrammed keys.


Yes, that was what I was thinking but may not come across that way Laughing Thumbs Up MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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Stuartc



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For that vintage, I'm pretty sure as long as you keep the CJB, PCM (engine module), IPC (instrument cluster) all together then it should work. The rest can be interchanged and configured within the CCF. But as PAB says, if you are using most of the donor vehicles wiring/modules, it should just work.
If this was a MY13 or younger then I would say you were really setting yourself a challenge as far more modules are vin locked and security focused. IAM on later vehicles also has full
Copy of Master CCF File. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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pab



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

okenkou wrote:
... came back 10 hours later with a van full of interior and wiring looms, heater matrix etc. Shouldv'e seen the wifes face.


Could have been worse - you could have had the full leather electric memory seats, memory mirrors with dip on reverse, multi-CD audio with umpteen speakers... Laughing

Or, since you've got to cut a hole in the roof anyway, how about the sunroofs? Whistle

Just kidding about the sunroof btw... Confused

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