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Replacement windscreen, change to heated possible?

Windscreen has been cracked by a stone from a lorry on French auto route. It will need replaced when I get home. Just wondering if it's possible to retro fit a heated version? Obviously the wiring in my GS is not present but I'm guessing it would be easy to make up the required circuit . Anyone done this? Are the terminal connections easily accessible once a screen has been fitted in place?
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would not be surprised if the wiring was there just need the relays etc.
I fitted a heated screen to an old ex army 110, just need two relays, think I got 100amp ones, one for each side, then it's just a case of wiring and switch, take the power from a ignition feed maybe the fuse for the heated window, if you can get a timed switch that would great. Common sense isn't very common.
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Yes entirely doable.
Change screen, plugs should be in plenum chamber, change HVAC module to one with heated screen switch and activate in CCF.
No offence but the “old” add a few relays and power approach is not applicable to L359. It’s all CAN & LIN controlled, lol. MY15
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fairy muff Very Happy did say it was on an old 110, forgotten about the can and lin Sad Common sense isn't very common.
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Stuartc wrote:
Yes entirely doable.
Change screen, plugs should be in plenum chamber, change HVAC module to one with heated screen switch and activate in CCF.
No offence but the “old” add a few relays and power approach is not applicable to L359. It’s all CAN & LIN controlled, lol.


Entirely doable with relays. Fitted front fogs and wired them using a relay and switch just like in the 'old days'. I'd imagine the screen would be just as easy using the appropriate wire gauge and rating of relay. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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the difference is the fogs are just handled by a relay v heating elements which are controlled by current, timing circuits and sensing circuits but hey have a go but may end up in an expensive disaster. MY15
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40 amp fuse heated windscreen left side.
40 amp fuse heated windscreen right side.

That's over a 1kW of "cooktop" if not managed properly, it's a big load on the alternator. Not the sort of thing I would want to accidentally leave on too long.

Also everything else needs power. I would rather let the car manage the power!

Plus:
30 amps heated rear window.
10 amps heated steering wheel.
15 amps driver seat heater.
15 amps passenger seat heater.

Not sure what the mirrors need, probably 5 amps a side. Let alone what the rest of the car needs.

I believe when you get the heated accessories pack the car gets a 180 amp alternator.

When I run my compressors I turn off hi-fi & AC etc to lighten load.

How glaziers cut laminated glass to size, after scoring it is put a bit of metho on the glass & light it to warm the plastic. At least you would be ready to go with an unmanaged heating element! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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I was simply saying that adding relay circuits is not impossible however taking into account the power involved probably not a great plan, and not one I'd risk damaging my car for. Think I'll keep the de icer handy instead!
Thanks for the wisdom. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Lightwater is right about the alternator, although I am not so sure what extra equipment full 'cold climate' vehicles have.

Repair Manual says

A single self-exciting generator is located at the front of the engine on the Left-Hand (LH) side of the cylinder block. Two generators are available for the TD4 engine, dependent on vehicle specification. The generators are rated at 90/150 amps and 115/180 amps respectively. The larger rated generator is used on cold climate market vehicles installed with a heated front windshield and electric booster heater.
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So I'm guessing that mine will be the lower powered version and not up to the job. No point in trying this mod which would require significant extra expenditure. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Bob, You could try this, Laughing

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