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Aero_383



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Am I the only one still on winter tyres ?

Fitted Vredestein Wintrac 4's in December and they have been fantastic, not only in the snow but also in the wet.
The question is should I run them all year round or will they wear much quicker than summer tyres in the warm weather ?
The fitter told me they are perfectly usable all year round. The Vreds perform best under 7c and I want them to last a couple of winters. In an ideal world would buy 4 summer tyres but don't want unnecessary expense.

Have you run on winter tyres all year ? _________________
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thats a winter tyre you can use all year round so it up to you 1995 P38 now dead
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Post #182994 6th May 2013 8:38 am
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It depends what they are wearing like and what your normal tyres are like, your Wintracs are not recommended for winter use when they get down to 4mm, they will wear quicker in the summer so you may end up having to replace them for next winter. Whereas you could run your normal tyres out this Summer and still have a good set of Wintracs for next winter. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

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Thanks for your replies.
I do about 10,000 miles a year and they are wearing slowly and evenly, but I would be unhappy if they were useless next winter because I ran them during a (hopefully) hot summer. I know the way forward is to shell out for a second set but I need to persuade Mrs Aero it's money well spent ! _________________
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...in theory, it *shouldn't* be more any expensive in the long run (putting aside any costs you may have switching them out twice a year) - in fact, you could argue it'll save money as your tyre wear will be optimised all year around. That might help with Mrs Aero Thumbs Up FL2 2011 SD4 XS in Galway Green

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As Yanwoo says, it shouldn't be more expensive in the long run - provided that you keep the car long enough.

I bought a second set of wheels via the forum, with Avon Ranger Ice winter tyres fitted, and have just put a set of Grabber ATs on the other set for summer use. That way I always have the most appropriate tyres on the car, and preserve the tread of the winters for as long as possible.

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Cheers Thumbs Up

Looking at the price of new tyres and wheels from places like Overfinch, it looks like it's cost effective to buy a full set they've removed from an Evoque and have a set of rims and tyres for the seasons. Around £700 looks like good value without the hassle of changing tyres on rims twice a year. (I need 235 60 18's) _________________
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Aero_383



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Update...

Feeling chuffed having bought a new set of 235 60 18 Scorpion Verde's on new Evoque alloys for less than £600, so my freelie has some winter boots (Wintrac 4's) and summer sandles Thumbs Up

Questions...

Do I need to get a garage to put these on with a torque wrench to a specific tightness or can I do it myself with lashings of common sense ?

Do I need to get the wheels balanced considering they have come off a new car ?

Is there a correct direction for these tyres, as I can't see any arrows on the tyres and pictures of them on Evoques are inconclusive

Any advice welcome. _________________
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Surely one looks at not only tyre size but also what it is designed for? Anyone buying "blind " is only asking for trouble. No point in buying winter tyres for hot summer weather for example, but how many actually check first?

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I bought winter tyres for the winter, and summer tyres for the summer. I was told by the supplier the winters would be fine all year round when I fitted them, but I want them to be good for a couple of winters to come so this seemed a good way forward. _________________
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I run General Grabber AT's all year round as being involved with forest car rallying I would be changing them every 3/4 weeks which is totally impractical. There is a bit of extra road noise but as my garage guy says for any noise "turn up the volume on the radio and wait for something to go bang".
Also good for non hard standing caravan sites. Life Honorary Member of Wallasey Motor Club.
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I run Nokian WR G2 all year round.
I've a set of Mich Tour in the garage, but so far the Nokians have done 26k and still 6mm left Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

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Just noticed this one...

Aero_383 wrote:

Questions...

Do I need to get a garage to put these on with a torque wrench to a specific tightness or can I do it myself with lashings of common sense ?

I have a torque wrench and was surprised, given the usual practice of standing on the end of the wheelbrace(!) how little torque, relatively, was actually required. Whilst overtightening a bit probably won't do any harm if you want the correct torque it may be worth investing in a torque wrench - they're not that expensive. See, for example: http://www.screwfix.com/p/teng-tools-drive-torque-wrench/22796 - I think that's the one I have. (Note that you'll need an appropriately sized socket too. I can't remember what the appropriate size is off-hand, but I can check later if need be.)

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Do I need to get the wheels balanced considering they have come off a new car ?

No, not unless you're experiencing vibrations. Wheels are normally balanced off the car anyway.

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Is there a correct direction for these tyres, as I can't see any arrows on the tyres and pictures of them on Evoques are inconclusive

I'm not familiar with the Scorpions, but directional tyres are usually clearly marked so if there are no obvious markings they're probably not directional. But don't take my word for it!

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Thank you Pab. _________________
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For those that run winters all year, not such a good idea.

http://www.continental-tires.com/www/tires...er_en.html

http://www.tyrepress.com/2014/06/switch-to...idgestone/

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