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houghta



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black
heated wing mirrors

hi there i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction,
my heated wing mirrors don't seem to be working on my FL2 HSE, they stayed misted up on my 15 minute journey this morning surely they should have cleared in that time
any suggestions?

cheers,

Post #157763 17th Oct 2012 7:33 am
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wizking



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Try here;

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic3002.html...ng+mirrors

And here;

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic3279.html...ng+mirrors

Post #157770 17th Oct 2012 9:59 am
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EYorkshire



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The heater circuit for each mirror is fused separately via separate door modules so would be highly unlikely to be a fuse or a module if both did it.
Supposing there is nothing wrong, maybe it was the conditions only that stopped them from working.

A 2008 description says:

Quote:
The operation of the heated mirrors is fully automatic, and requires no driver intervention.


A 2011 description goes into more detail, and I assume is no different from earlier models:
Quote:
The heated external rear view mirrors operate automatically according to the external temperature and windscreen wiper operation.


Could it be that although the temperature was not enough to trigger the heating circuit, a flick of the windscreen/rear screen wipers would have done Question

Post #157775 17th Oct 2012 11:59 am
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russben



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I thought they only worked with the heated rear screen on. Haven't read the manual that closely though. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #157785 17th Oct 2012 12:58 pm
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EYorkshire



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My quotes were taken off the LR Topix site, from the respective OP's car year and owners manual, looking at the wiring diagram there's also no correlation between the heated mirrors and any other window heating.

Seems to be purely down to temperature sensing and/or wiper operation. The wiper operation seems to make sense because clearing a window should mean the mirrors want clearing also.

That's the operation but maybe the OP has a problem Smile

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Mona Geeza



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Mine work only when the rear screen is on and they clear in about 20 seconds

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Agree with Mona Geeza mine misted up earlier this week, turned on heated rear window and after about 15-20 seconds door mirrors were clear. Turned off heated rear window and a while later they started to mist up again and soon cleared when I turned rear window heater back on.

Post #157793 17th Oct 2012 2:13 pm
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Is nothing straight forward on our cars Confused, from my owners manual.

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The heated external rear view mirrors operate automatically according to the external temperature and windscreen wiper operation.

It doesn't even mention the rear screen heater, here's me believing the written word Laughing
I'll try mine out in the morning Thumbs Up

Post #157798 17th Oct 2012 2:35 pm
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taztastic



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Mine come on with the heated screen too, its a pain, as Rch.. says, after a while they cool and mist up again, the previous car, a Merc, they were on based on temperature and wipers, when driving they never misted up once, clever those Germans Laughing
Prefer the FL though Thumbs Up

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I must admit to reading manuals from start to finish, sad I know Embarassed but I tend to believe what is written also. If it states 'automatic and wipers' operation, where does the switching on the rear screen heater come in, it just shouldn't be Confused

It does my head in when now'ts straight forward Mad

Perhaps LR intended it to be that way and changed their minds after the printing job was done Laughing

Post #157802 17th Oct 2012 3:12 pm
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Mona Geeza



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Mirror heating would be no good if it came on depending on the outside temperature only, ie, if its frosty say, as when its humid, ie warm, they mist up as opposed to icing up in cold weather, so you need to be able to control them manually do you not??

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My discussion now is not about the logic of it, it's now about what is written in the manual, and as Taz mentioned, his Merc's mirror heaters were automatic based on temperature and wipers exactly as it states in the MY2011 manual.



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Post #157804 17th Oct 2012 4:02 pm
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taztastic



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Mona Geeza wrote:
, as when its humid, ie warm, they mist up


only if you keep your car in the fridge Laughing

I know what you mean, I have been in freezing fog were conditions suddenly change and everything mists up when the temp rises and it becomes humid. The C class also had an aerodynamic mirror design that keeps the glass free from water when driving, keeping them clear, LR have opted for little whirlpools in the corner of the window to keep us amused and our eyes off the rain sodden mirror.

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Mona Geeza



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EYorkshire wrote:
My discussion now is not about the logic of it, it's now about what is written in the manual, and as Taz mentioned, his Merc's mirror heaters were automatic based on temperature and wipers exactly as it states in the MY2011 manual.



I will have a look in my handbook and check if it refers to Mercs also, be interesting. Thumbs Up

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taztastic



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The exterior mirrors are automatically heated after starting the vehicle if the rear window heating is switched on and the outside temperature is low. Mirror heating lasts up to 10 minutes.


That is from the c class manual, interesting as it works by temp? The mirrors would clear while I cleared snow from the window before turning on the screen heater.

Post #157820 17th Oct 2012 7:09 pm
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