I use one of these - will light up a hillside half a mile away! http://www.caving-gear.co.uk/products_tn.asp?id=55
Seem to be out of stock at the moment though...

People get really serious about lamps on here: http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtop...&pid=1

1750 lumens anyone? http://www.ledcaplamps.com/ and click on the TRIGON link.

A lot of these claimed lumens are inaccurate. Still good value though.

It needs to be second generation cree (3 x CREE XM-L U2 LED) it's amazing how my hot my bike like gets kicking out that many lumens

http://gemini-lights.com/products/olympia

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GJH0702 wrote:

I have been looking at a Cree torch as below any thoughts? Many thanks

http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-zone-Zoomable-Fl...mp;sr=8-22

Fenix TK35 - Cree XM-L (U2) LED - 4 light modes - up to 860 Lumens - recommended... ...

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Anything on eBay quoting the word "Cree" may well be rubbish, Cree themselves have LED's which they categorise according to output, so a particular LED, lets say A1 for example will have classifications according to output, lets say A -D and anything else is sub standard.
LED's come off production in there millions, and all have a tolerance, buy a a torch from a well known supplier and you should be getting A1 A/B quality diodes, buy off eBay and your getting the junk diodes. All the sellers will quote the maximum for that range of LED and without manufacturing data for how the Lumen value was derived you are being fooled by a pretty meaningless number, look on the Cree torch website, their lumen figures are way below the thousands being quoted here?

I suspect that the only reliable way to go into four figures is to use a pair of LEDs, which Fellows (see above) does (In fact his lamp contains four Crees).
I would not doubt the quality of his stuff - as a caver, he would quickly find himself in a dark place without a torch if people found he was ripping them off.
Definitely worth using a supplier you know.

UltraFire 502B supplied with two 3000mAH 3.7V Li-ion batteries  Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

I have had a T7 Lenser for about 14 months now. Fantastic little torch, which fits in a jacket pocket, unlike a 2D maglite. Partway through it's 2nd winter, and still on the batteries supplied with it. I have some aaa rechargeables ready, as i use it a lot, but no sign of needing them yet.

Change the batteries quite regularly, they wont be dead and will do other tasks kids toys, tv remote etc etc. the torches need newish batteries to really shine, my p6 looses a bit of spread pattern and range when 1/2 used batteries are in. still useful but its pitch black round here not a streetlight to be seen so never enough light from a torch. At work
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