jimmy wrote:

VIKING wrote:

jimmy wrote:

If an excellent 4WD vehicle with these tyres has a problem - then basically most other drivers on those roads will be completely stuck !

Not if they are equipped with proper tyres!

But report back how the driving up in the mountains went.

I believe that "winter" tyres are mainly a Scandinavian phenomenun. When I lived in the UK - we never changed tyres in Winter, neither did we when driving to the French / Italien ski resorts. In fact, I only knew about "winter / summer" tyres when I moved to Denmark.

I suspect that most divers in Europe just use 1 set of tyres - unless living in a particulary snowy region.


Does anyone in the UK change to "winter" tyres - for home driving - or travelling abroad (eg to skiing) ?

attox wrote :
In Europe most of people in Austria, Switzerland and northen Italy use 2 sets of tyres just for that.

The norwegians are born with skies on their feet, and their cars have a set wintertyres on in winter.
Living in Denmark now (without snow, perhaps only 1-2 days) ,I follow the tradition and have good, new wintertyres on.

Oh, I miss roads covered with snow and ice.

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[quote="jimmy"]Hi Attox !

Maybe the "sensors" are something to do with the tyre pressure monitoring system ??

My FL2 is not a high enough specification to have this

I think that chains that interfere with brake pipes etc are just simply not the right size - meaning that at the back side of the tyre (towards the engine) - the chains should only reach a few cm down towards the middle.

At the front side of the tyre it's a different story - whereby the chain fixing mechanisn can nearly cover the whole side.

Anyway - I'll send some pictures


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[quote="jimmy"]

jimmy wrote:

Hi Attox !

Maybe the "sensors" are something to do with the tyre pressure monitoring system ??

My FL2 is not a high enough specification to have this

I think that chains that interfere with brake pipes etc are just simply not the right size - meaning that at the back side of the tyre (towards the engine) - the chains should only reach a few cm down towards the middle.

At the front side of the tyre it's a different story - whereby the chain fixing mechanisn can nearly cover the whole side.

Anyway - I'll send some pictures


2 pictures taken - see Gallery and "last additions".

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Anyway - I'll send some pictures


2 pictures taken - see Gallery and "last additions".

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Jimmy, I don't know about the tyre pressure monitoring system.
I simply followed what indicated on the owner's manual and the possible interference with sensors or other is in part logical speculation and advise from technicians.

Looking at your picture it looks your chain is not touching anyware and I hope you checked also with the wheel completely steered on left and right. What we cannot forsee is what happens during the real driving on snow. I don't know if you had the chance to test the chains yet. Even if the chain adhere perfectly on the tyre in standing position it has the tendency to "follow" the centrifugal force when the wheel is revolving.
By the way on the smaller 16" rims LR does not put any limit on the type of chain as it does on the 17" and 18" ones, so probably they stayed more on the prundential side.[/quote]


Hey Attox,

You are right about the wheel / tyre diameter issue ; the larger the wheel - the closer to the shock-abosorber the tyre wall gets.

I tried it on full lock - and it maintains this "1cm-1.5cm" gap to the shock absorber - but not tried it on snow yet.

There maybe a problem if you hit a kerb for example, causing the tyre wall to flatten sideways - then it could be very, very close to the shock absorber.

Also - probably not a good idea to let pressure out of the tyres (so they flatten and become wider)

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Cheers for the photos Jimmy

Looks like there is a bit of clearence between the wheel and the shockers ect.

Don't forget to take in to account the centrifugal force acting on the chains when your driving, are the inner chains tight and won't be forced into the shockers when the wheels a spinning whilst driving.

If so things are looking good  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

jimmy wrote:

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I tried it on full lock - and it maintains this "1cm-1.5cm" gap to the shock absorber - but not tried it on snow yet.

There maybe a problem if you hit a kerb for example, causing the tyre wall to flatten sideways - then it could be very, very close to the shock absorber.

Also - probably not a good idea to let pressure out of the tyres (so they flatten and become wider)

i was told old my old cars chains a gap that can fit your finger in should be ok

But then I get then thinking what happens if they had fat fingers and i have skinny ones, what is the average for a finger size  Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

npinks wrote:

i was told old my old cars chains a gap that can fit your finger in should be ok

But then I get then thinking what happens if they had fat fingers and i have skinny ones, what is the average for a finger size

npinks wrote:

i was told old my old cars chains a gap that can fit your finger in should be ok

But then I get then thinking what happens if they had fat fingers and i have skinny ones, what is the average for a finger size

.......I think it depends where you put it..........

Hello,
I'm going to Austria next week. I have fitted winter tyres on 17" rims and my LR dealer recommends to fit chains on all 4 wheels. What do you think ? Thanks.

I maybe wrong but i am sure the manual states fit chains to the front wheels only


Which chains you looking at? there is not many that fit apparently Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

morrisgf wrote:

Hello,
I'm going to Austria next week. I have fitted winter tyres on 17" rims and my LR dealer recommends to fit chains on all 4 wheels. What do you think ? Thanks.

morrisgf wrote:

Hello,
I'm going to Austria next week. I have fitted winter tyres on 17" rims and my LR dealer recommends to fit chains on all 4 wheels. What do you think ? Thanks.

Hello Viking,

I also have Continental 4x4 WinterContact tyres 235/65R17 on 17" alloy rims from Motor Sports.
I am quite confident about my Freelander going up the Austrian mountain passes with these tyres without chains. But in Austria it is legally required to carry chains. Police might stop you and ask to show them your chains. So just to be safe, I'll probably carry a pair of chains in my roofbox.
Thanks.