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alex_pescaru



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Si a mea are cam tot pe acolo nr. de km. Dar porneste si la 0 grade usor, chiar si fara bujii, deci e posibil ca sa ai probleme cu injectoarele daca trepideaza urat...
Pentru curatire as evita ultrasunetele deoarece injectoarele sunt piezo si cristalele/discurile interne ar putea suferi.
As folosi curatirea cu fluid special daca as avea unde si cu ce si ca ultima solutie cea cu adaugare de aditiv in rezervor.
Cei de la Wynns au ceva destule de eficient, precum spun si cei de pe forumul rusesc: https://www.wynns.eu/product/diesel-system-purge/

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bucuresti77



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dorumarcatoru wrote:
Mai bine te duci la un service specializat pe injectie diesel, gen bosch diesel service, total diesel, etc.

Salut,
Am vorbit la service-urile sugerate de tine, dar ambii vor sa ma duc cu injectoarele demontate. Singur sa le demontez nu ma bag, stii cumva alt service unde le demonteaza, le diagnostigheaza si le repara daca e vreunul stricat?
Merci

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dorumarcatoru



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Eu nu am avut contact cu nici unul, insa mi se pare ciudat sa nu isi asume toata lucrarea.
Ai incercat si la express diesel?

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alex_pescaru



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Mai oameni buni, acum am citit mai bine....
100.000 km pentru niste injectoare e cam putin ca sa se strice....
Sigur sunt injectoarele?

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bucuresti77



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Da, cam putin 100k sa aiba probleme, asa am zis si eu.
Insa masina e cam batrana, 2007, motorina proasta, eh merg cu ea cam subturata (cum oare sa mergi in orasul asta? - Buc).
Cert este ca azi am fost la un service Bmw unde am facut curatare de injectoare, fix cu substanta pe care a indicat-o Alex, Wynns.
Sa vad maine cum porneste, si va dau si voua info. Oricum, merge mai rotund motorul.

Merci

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bucuresti77



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Da, porneste bine acum Bow down .pare sa aiba si mai multa putere. Sa vedem cum porneste la -10 grade sau cand o fi mai rece. Revin cu update.

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alex_pescaru



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Ai asistat la operatiune? Ai idee in ce regim de turatie si pentru cat timp au tinut motorul?
Thanks!

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bucuresti77



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Salut, da, am stat acolo.
Turatia normala, la relanti, din cate am vazut au fost doua etape a cate ~18 min fiecare.

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bucuresti77



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Salut, am pornit pe 0 grade si... porneste greu.
Am observat ca martorul bujiilor incandescente nu se aprinde. Sa fie de la asta???
Oare s-a busit ceva? In mod normal parca la 3 grade se aprinde martorul bujiilor.
Pls help.

Merci

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Drinovan Ovidiu



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Asta e tabelul cu timpi necesari porniri bujiilor in funtie de temperatura de afara:
https://i.imgur.com/4m7Ovul.jpg
Mai verifica daca ii vine 12v de la pinul de comanda a releul de alimentare a bujiilor si apoi daca acesta comuta tensiunea de 12 v catre buji! Daca totul merge,atunci nu este de aici problema! Operatiune care poti sa o faci doar,cand afara sunt sub 0°C!
Sau scoate releul bujiilor si cu un fir mai gros (4mm) adu +12v la papucul (unde o stat releul)care se duce spre buji,astfel le vei alimenta manual bujiile cate secunde vrei,dupa care poti porni motorul si vezi daca porneste mai bine!

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bucuresti77



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Salut,
Am sa merg sa verific daca citeste corect temperatura de afara (reala) a.i. informatia de 0 grade este corect transmisa la computer care transmite catre bujii.
Acum au fost -5 grade si a pornit fara probleme.
insa la 0 grade se chinuie, la fel si la +5 grade. Daca citeste decalat cu sa zicem 5 grade acolo este o problema, in sensul in care cand sunt 3 grade si el imi citeste ca fiind 10 grade este posibil sa nu transmita la bujii sa se aprinda.

Revin dupa ce verific.

Merci

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bucuresti77



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Salut,
Am mai fost intr-un sevice care se ocupa de LR (nu dau nume)
Nu mi-a putut spune ca e de la bujii (zice ca-s ok, temperatura o citeste corect, transmite la ECU). Zice. A din injectoare putin probabil.
Zicea ca s-ar putea sa mai fie o valva dupa injectoare (sau inainte) nu am retinut. N-a controlat-o deci nu se stie daca o fi aia. Ce-i cu valva asta? Cum se poate verifica? Cum se cheama sa vad cat costa?

Merci

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alex_pescaru



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Da, este o valva dupa injectoare, pe returul lor, care tine o presiune de 10 bari in furtunele de retur, presiune necesara pentru camera hidraulica a injectoarelor.

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dorumarcatoru



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E putin probabil sa fie rampa de retur. Simptomele ei se manifesta la presiuni mari in sistemul de injectie, in sarcina maxima.
Eu am avut-o defecta si masina mergea perfect, pana in momentul in care o solicitam aproape de maxim, adica accelerari prelungite la viteze mari (120-130), cand nu mai tinea presiunea si masina se "punea in cap".

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bucuresti77



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Mie unul mi se pare dubios sa fie valva.
Adica de ce la -5 grade porneste perfect la sfert de cheie si la 5 grade se chinuie? Daca era valva era o problema de pornite si la -5 grade. Mi se pare aiurea ca la temperaturi 0-10 grade sa porneasca greu si la -1-5 grade sa porneasca bine.

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