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Cannonball



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Surge

I have a 2011 FL2 2.2 manual which over the past 21 months has been almost perfect. The one recurring small issue is that periodically when driving in town at a fairly low speed in 5th gear, the car starts to accelerate slowly of its own accord without any pressure on the pedal. It keeps on accelerating until I drop down a gear or two, touching the brake pedal has no affect. It occurs more often before the engine has reached full working temperature. Just wondering has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any idea what might be causing it. Mentioned it to the dealer at first service but they couldn't find anything wrong.

Post #162021 23rd Nov 2012 8:13 pm
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Tandemman



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It's to do with the anti stall system, if you leave it in any gear with revs below 1000 it will accelerate to 1000 revs with no driver input, nothing to worry about.

Post #162022 23rd Nov 2012 8:20 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Cannonball wrote:
when driving in town at a fairly low speed in 5th gear

Hmm... Not good. Not good at all.
You should keep the RPM over at least 1500 RPM at all times.
This if you don't want to have a clogged turbo variable geometry in a short time. Because you accelerate from time to time, isn't it? And accelerating from below 1.5k will generate much more smoke than accelerating from over 1.5k...
I know, it will ruin your MPG, but it is a turbo diesel engine, not a gasoline one...

Post #162033 23rd Nov 2012 9:51 pm
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wizking



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Never knew we had the anti stall feature.

Post #162036 23rd Nov 2012 10:48 pm
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Andy131



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The newer manuals do - then again haven't managed to stall the auto either Wink
I was out playing a while back, there was a very rocky section, that would definately have needed a new clutch in my old FL1.. The Doc in his manual did the same section - we were very impressed, just let the clutch out steady and let the anti-stall and traction control do their work. Steady progress, no clutch damage, and you get to concentrate on placing the wheels in the right spot. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #162043 24th Nov 2012 12:03 am
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bigalf1961



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i allways drive in 3rd/4th gear around town this helps the dpf stay clear ry to keep revs above 2000rpm Thumbs Up rainy-city
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Post #162058 24th Nov 2012 10:40 am
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Tandemman



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My ghange up indicator light always comes on way below 2000 revs, usually about 1700 revs and a change up at those revs from 4th to 5th or 5th to 6th bogs the engine down at less than 1000 revs i usually change up at 2000, giving a change over revs of about 1300 or so .

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Mona Geeza



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wizking wrote:
Never knew we had the anti stall feature.


You can stall it, Ive stalled mine a couple of times, but it always restarts itself anyway.
I doubt it would go up a 45 degree incline without stalling if you didnt press the accelerator.
But I have experienced the so called anti stall feature in high gear at low rpm, and it does try to accelerate up to a point

Post #162064 24th Nov 2012 1:34 pm
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taztastic



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The anti stall feature should help prevent a stall but not totally prevent it, I imagine it would be a serious safety issue if the latter was the case.

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wizking



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Right, I didn't think I had it on my 07 model (was forever stalling in reverse!). Sounds impressive.

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LRswe



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what program is it that activares the "hill start" help thingy, where it holds the car on the brakes until you move forward?

Post #162071 24th Nov 2012 2:40 pm
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npinks



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The hill start only works when you have HDC on prior to Coming to a stop and the angle is very steep (not sure on degree)

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taztastic



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Pinky beat me to it, "hill start" as you call it, only works with HDC on and steep slope, it doesnt "hold" the car, it just releases the brake line pressure very slowly to allow better control.

The new model with electric parking brake may have hill hold assist?

Mines auto so no problems with that Thumbs Up

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rchrdleigh



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The latest model year (MY2013) has both Gradient Release Control which works when HDC is switched on and Hill Start Assist which works when HDC is not switched on. Both GRC and HSA are designed to assist you in restarting on a steep hill by holding the brakes momentarily while you move your foot from the brake pedal to the accelerator pedal.

Post #162097 24th Nov 2012 7:40 pm
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