michelin are saying that they are making some in december sometime to ship to suppliers in the uk. we use michelin at work and they just wont give a date for them at all. most wholesalers say end december for the new batch. as there are so many tyre tread designs/ sizes they batch produce thesedays. your tyre type gets in a queue.

grabber ats are nearly as bad. i've just got someone who'll do me a set of thse that should be delivered in next week.

i just got my grabber ats today and the local guy fitted and balanced them for me for 40 quid.

my wobble stopped straight away which was nice.

bit of a rumble at slow speeds but seems good so far...

I've managed to put a few hundred miles on some Michelin latitude cross tyres, and they are slightly (very slightly) noisier than scorpions, I'm getting 37 mpg, and they handle better too. OK I know it's a FL2 not a Lotus Elise, but the Michelins give a better turn in and feel in corners.

And they work in snow. Well it was only an inch deep, so maybe not a real test.