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AndyT



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TMC Gibberish

I recently took 2 trips from West Yorkshire to Scotland. On the M6 (both outbound and return) the Satnav was reporting slow traffic on at least 3 occasions, sometimes offering to route around. I didn't divert and found on every occasion that there was nothing - in fact traffic was light and I simply continued through at 70mph.
I'm assuming that this info is via TMC through radio reception? Anyone know why it is so unreliable? It's particularly annoying when it repeatedly warns about a fantasy problem and covers most of the screen with the giant window offering diversions, which you have to keep cancelling.

Post #61098 24th Feb 2010 10:47 am
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As far as I am aware TMC is those little blue cameras you see everywhere and yes, it's always late

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I had the old style traffic master in a new Vauxhall (subscription paid for a year as part of the car) a few years ago and that was a joke...well behind in reaction time.

Playing with the settings in the FL you can tell it which station it receives it's TMC info from - Mines set at Classic FM (Which I don't listen to) as it cannot find any other channels broadcasting the signal Shocked

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snappa



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Traffic info from Classic FM ??? Shocked

Does it tell you when the traffic is 'Bach'ed up ?

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I wish the highways agency would get a 'Handel' on the contraflows....

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snappa wrote:
As far as I am aware TMC is those little blue cameras you see everywhere and yes, it's always late


The little blue cameras you see belong to the Trafficmaster network. The TMC info is transmitted via the Classic FM station in the uk nothing to do with traffic info on other stations, by tuning it to another station will mean no TMC in the UK.
The TMC is supposed to get its info from road sensors, The Highways Agency and local news info etc. If anyone knows different please feel free to correct me.


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TMC is only as good as it data and since the data is always out of date then its pointless bit of the satnav Evil or Very Mad Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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According to Wikipedia (?) the information to TMC is very accurate, although the problem with it synchronising with Sat Nav is the accuracy. It is broadcast by locations and Satnav needs it to be more accurate.

They've got 7500 cameras you know. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

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AndyT



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I think I'll just disable it (if that's possible) so I at least don't have to listen to the silly old trout babbling on about nothing. It can't be trusted anyway...

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xtattsbox



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Don't do that. Where is the fun in that. "There is slow traffic ahead".... I know, but where is it. I mean if you are on your own in the car, you can have a great argument, blame her for everything and she won't sulk!!

Fact is how many times have you been sitting in a queue of traffic to hear Sally Traffic happily telling you that all the problems on the A14 are clear and it is moving freely in both directions.... (erm, no) Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

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I was under the impression that TMC was provided by a system called ITIS, which gathers information from lorries etc on how long it takes for them to travel between points along the road.

Link here: http://www.itisholdings.com/automotive.asp

I may be wrong though!

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boiledgnat wrote:
I was under the impression that TMC was provided by a system called ITIS, which gathers information from lorries etc on how long it takes for them to travel between points along the road.

Link here: http://www.itisholdings.com/automotive.asp

I may be wrong though!


You are not wrong, but it quite clearly states that it is powered by fairy dust and pixies. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

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