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The Doctor



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Dogs left in hot cars

This absolutely makes my blood boil Evil or Very Mad

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For anyone wondering about the issue of breaking a window to help the dog yourself:

S.5(2)(b) of the Criminal Damage Act 1971. In simple terms, you can commit damage to protect someone else’s property (a dog in this instance) so long as the property is in immediate need of protection and the means used are reasonable (a lawful excuse). In this kind of heat, a dog would clearly be in distress and I would gather evidence by video and photographs very quickly and make fast efforts to trace the owner, such as phoning the police who can use their systems to assist. If it’s outside a shop, try said shop for owner but spending ages going into different shops would be wasting precious time. All else fails, promptly smash a window.
Regarding the damage being reasonable to what you are trying to achieve, smashing a side window would be reasonable. Smashing several windows or smashing the windscreen would raise some questions as to why you thought that was necessary. You’d struggle to justify that if you are trying to get a dog out of a car.
If said dog was too large to fit through a side window, then that’s a different ball game and makes other options seem more reasonable. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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I have in the past seen posters in motorway services from the police offering a free service to improve car ventilation by smashing a side window if you leave a dog in a car on a hot day. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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I watched a chap yesterday leave two dogs in his car while he went shopping, only he left them in the back with the tailgate wide open. They were, I think, attached to the car in some way, but they were both good as gold just sitting there watching the world go by while they waited for him to return. The car was pretty safe too given that they were rottweilers...

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As an aside and as someone that frequently has a dog with me (though never in this weather like this and no chances are ever taken), I’m sorry to report that most insurance companies will not cover a car against theft if you leave any openings for the dog’s welfare. Even if the car is deadlocked and the dog is likely to eat a thief Shocked

The NFU is one of the select few that take a sensible view.

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that was one of the decent features of the FL1, the electric rear window which you could buy a genuine secure guard for so you could leave it open while driving or parked up. Brilliant bit of kit.

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The Doctor



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By all means start one if you like. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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