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westville



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Blind Spots - door mirrors

Anyone else found there are distinct blind spots on both sides of the car where following vehicles can "disappear" from view?

I have tried any number of adjustments to the mirrors but they still seem to occur Shocked

Any tips or solutions for this dangerous problem? Many years ago I used some stick on mini mirrors to overcome a similar problem - can anyone recommend any and where they got them? No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

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Post #351987 22nd Jun 2018 10:36 am
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dondiddy



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Not used any myself but there are lots for sale on ebay from complete clip on mirrors to smaller stick on ones. Some of the best selling ones have reviews about them as well which might help you decide which ones to get. Thumbs Up

Post #351989 22nd Jun 2018 10:40 am
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ronp



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I've never suffered from blind spots on any vehicle I've owned/driven.
It really is just about how you adjust your door mirrors ..... and have confidence in that setting!
(most peole adjust so they can see behind - the interior rear view mirror is for that).

Door mirrors should be set as such:
When you're being overtaken and the rear side of the overtaking vehicle is about to vanish from your interior mirror - the front end of that vehicle should start to appear in your door mirror.
Then when the rear side of the overtaking vehicle starts to disappear from your door mirror - the front end of that vehicle should appear in your periphery then normal vision.

A similar set up should be used for the near side.

As an IAM driver, I've taught this to many drivers, yet it isn't taught in-itself by the IAM.

Go on, give it a go. Thumbs Up FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

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Dave47



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Spot on ronp, Thumbs Up
Although I guess Kent is a little in front of Yorkshire on mirror settings
as we've recently been discussing how to set them correctly,
I'm currently going through my observer training so hoping to help make the roads a tad safer,
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I Like Chips



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BossBob



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Yes, I can see RonP’s logic, it just doesn’t work if driving a vehicle with no rear view mirror.

Post #352026 23rd Jun 2018 7:13 am
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ronp



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Thud ....it doesn't work either if you're driving a vehicle with no side mirrors, or a motorcycle, or even if you're blind! Rolling Eyes

Being a car forum I was referring to mirror set up for the vast majority of vehicles on the roads today. Wink FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
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dorsetfreelander



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I don't know if it's just me but motorcyclists seem to come out of nowhere these days and weave in and out of the line of traffic. I sometime wonder if they realise how vulnerable they are. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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IanMetro



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Very interesting.
As my mirrors alter to view close in when I reverse, I have taken your advice a widened my view through the door mirrors in their normal mode..
I also have a little stick-on offside blind spot mirror as I have poor peripheral vision in my right eye.
Thank you. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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blacktiger



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dorsetfreelander wrote:
I don't know if it's just me but motorcyclists seem to come out of nowhere these days and weave in and out of the line of traffic. I sometime wonder if they realise how vulnerable they are.


It's not just you. I've been a motorcyclist for 45 years and I'm as guilty as you. It's down to the fact that you can't be looking in your mirrors all the time. I've noticed an improvement when on my bike after fitting super bright LED auxiliary lamps. They seem to attract a driver's attention much better than the standard headlamps. MY13 Santorini Black SD4 HSE

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IanMetro



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Black Tiger
I am not sure from your post you mean that you have fitted a pair of LED lights.

I had a friend Dr Chadra de Fonseka, who was a national expert in the causes of road accidents. He told me that during a study into why so many m/bikes were involved in junction accidents, it was found that the human eye was very bad at focusing on, and estimating the speed, of a single light source,(headlight) and the brighter and more intense it was, the more difficult it became to judge it's distance and speed.

The eye was much better at judging a pair of less intense lights spaced horzontally apart. (as with a car's running lights) so this is what you need to fit.

Modern m/bike's acceleration and speed only makes the problem worse, plus the fact that we are only human and better suited to catching sabre toothed tigers than dealing with fast motorcycles.

Chandra had quite a life story.
https://livesonline.rcseng.ac.uk/biogs/E000565b.htm FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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blacktiger



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Mine make a triangle with the headlamps which I have read the human eye picks up better than anything else. They're also dimmed in daytime so that they're not bright enough to dazzle. They do come on "Full Monty" with the mainbeam and at night they turn it into day.
I have been thinking of a similar set up for the Freelander as the headlamps are such schitt. MY13 Santorini Black SD4 HSE

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westville



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Thanks to all those who responded on the original topic - just completed a 600 mile round trip and seem to have overcome the problem Thumbs Up No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

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Post #352256 26th Jun 2018 7:23 pm
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