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Dskendal



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Confused about electrics

I have been having alot of problems with restricted performance messages linking to the flow control sensor on the turbo.
Eco stop start did not work,
Sometimes it would not recognise my key to start,
Window control on the key fob, is also temperamental.
So I have changed the battery, with a recommended one.
Now I sometimes get problems and sometimes get a problem free drive.
But when I get a problem, it is always a restricted performance message and I lose turbo power.
Can any shed any more light on this,
Alternator giving 14.5vs
2013 fl2

Post #349478 14th May 2018 12:37 am
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Andy131



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Your in Sale (Manchester?)

I live in Leigh - not a million miles away, and have reasonable diagnostics kit, if you want drop me a message and pop round. Best place to start is to ask the car what it thinks is wrong. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #349493 14th May 2018 12:51 pm
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Dskendal



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Thanks for the offer but I have been to 2 garages one being an independent land rover garage in Stockport. And the only faults that show related to the turbo.
P2263
P0046
P0047.
May be that will shed so light some where?
Unless your is electrical?

Post #349503 14th May 2018 4:58 pm
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Andy131



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P0046 Turbo/supercharger boost control solenoid - circuit range/performance
P0047 Turbo/supercharger boost control solenoid - circuit low
P2263 Turbo/supercharge boost system performance


Hope I have got these the right way around -
A high warning would suggest a short
A low signal would suggest a bad connection.
either way it's time to get out a multimeter and check the solenoid and associated wiring / connectors.

It's understandable that, if the car thinks there is something wrong with the Turbo or it's control circuit, that the designers would want to limit any potential damage by putting the car into limp mode. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

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Dskendal



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Thanks alot will pass that on to a auto sparkie, can anyone recommend one in the Manchester area?

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Joe



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A very generous offer Andy, True spirit of a forum. Thumbs Up

Joe Fix it until it's broke !

Post #349508 14th May 2018 6:11 pm
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jules



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Re: Confused about electrics

Dskendal wrote:
I have been having alot of problems with restricted performance messages linking to the flow control sensor on the turbo.
Eco stop start did not work,
Sometimes it would not recognise my key to start,
Window control on the key fob, is also temperamental.
So I have changed the battery, with a recommended one.
Now I sometimes get problems and sometimes get a problem free drive.
But when I get a problem, it is always a restricted performance message and I lose turbo power.
Can any shed any more light on this,
Alternator giving 14.5vs
2013 fl2


Have you tried adding an additional earth wire from battery to starter motor or engine block ? Its been previously found to be the cause of many electrical issues and there are several are threads on it - searching should find them. Jules

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Yorky Bob



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Being a 2013 car it has the extra earth lead.

Many 2013 cars to include Ewoks were fitted with faulty EGR valves that often fail just out of warranty Rolling Eyes Mine included. Big Cry So my money is on a knacked EGR valve.

Ensure you update when cured. Thumbs Up FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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dondiddy



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Just helped my friend who had a similar issue with the same fault codes and had been advised by Land Rover that he needed a new turbo based on the p2263 code and occasional mil light. He had restricted performance message and engine would not rev above 2000rpm. I checked that the variable vane arm wasn`t seized and also was able to look into the inlet side of the turbo and check for bearing wear/damage which there wasn`t any. Checked turbo actuator and it seeemed to be moving as it should when ignition was switched on. I then spent a good few hours researching on the internet using the 3 fault codes and in the end decided that it was (possibly) a faulty turbo actuator. He picked up a s/h actuator which I fitted for him and it cured the problem. Comparing the 2 actuators they both seemed to cycle in the same way when the ignition was switched on,however when moving the arms by hand the faulty ones arm was very slow to return back whereas the replacement actuators arm snapped back really quickly. Before spending any money on anything however I would check and make sure the other possible causes of restricted performance have been eliminated .I.e fuel filter, split or delaminated intercooler hose. Good luck! Thumbs Up

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jules



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Yorky Bob wrote:
Being a 2013 car it has the extra earth lead.

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Yorky : I have a 2014 car and didnt think it had an extra earth so I added one - (battery to gearbox- as there was a unused tapped hole in a convenient place). Where is the extra earth you're talking about ? Jules

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Yorky Bob



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Once the Ewoks shared the same platform as the last of the FL2's the earthing was up graded as were most of the electrics. Early and late are sooooooooo different. As a non believer get a 2007 one next to yours, open the bonnet and check it out as a I dont have a schematic drawing set of both years to prove otherwise.

How do I know I read it on here. Laughing FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Post #349582 15th May 2018 8:55 pm
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Dskendal



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Thanks for all this advice, since posting this I have had over 2 weeks of around town drive with no problems.

However in the past 2 days it has gone in to restricted performance when I have driven on to a Motorway, once as I was speeding up to get on and second while I was cruising.

Yorky could this still be EGR.

Don I have checked all the obviously reasons, did the actuator cause the restriction all the time or at random times?

I have been using a solar panel to trickle charge the battery so I think the battery is fine.

and excuse my ignorance what is EWOK

thanks again
Dave

Post #350434 29th May 2018 8:42 pm
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Yorky Bob



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EGR fails once engine is hot. So runs OK until warmed up then goes into limp mode.

Rolling with laughter Laughing Ewok is the dark side Shocked




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 FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Post #350437 29th May 2018 8:56 pm
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dondiddy



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The fault could be cleared with a code reader but would return within a minute or 2 and the engine would do a little jump and the restricted performance message would come up with the engine not revving above 2000 rpm.

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Dskendal



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So yorky and don the way you describe the EGR and actuator, it would happen all the time, not once every few weeks?

Laughing Laughing EWOK like it

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