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Stuartc wrote:
Ok, I’m flying blind here as you’re not giving me all the info.
Firstly, as I understand it you have a MY12 L320 and your fitting Discovery mirrors which use the 6 pin camera’s? You will have problems with this as the camera’s are designed to work with curtain IPMB’s which use a completely different CAN architecture.
If you want this to have any change of working you’ll need to use IPMB of same era as your vehicle and matching camera as they are SW specific.
You will need to have the IPMB in the network before you get any submenu’s as the IPMB controls all FCDIM functionality of the Surround Camera System.
My Understanding is you have no camera softkey at present on the FCDIM?
Again, if you have MY12 L320, your park aid system (CAN related) will not show on FCDIM, problem being mentioned above.
I use a DA-Dongle as my pass through which is a JLR approved. Beware of any copies as they’re unreliable and you don’t want any issues when your flashing modules/Ccf.


Me again, yes I’ve got the Disco 4 mirrors fitted apart from cameras. The IPMB Ive got is from a 2014 Discovery 4 but I believe is the same as A 2012 FFRR. What I would like to do is to get the camera soft key on the FCDIM first (as you did) and then plumb in the IPMB and if it doesn’t work I’ll swop it for an L320 version. I’m not to fussed which version of camera I use so if the 6 pin doesn’t work, I’ll fit a version which will.

When I was trying to research which module to buy, it was hard to work out which one would be best suited to my year as there were at least 3 variations and Topix didn’t really help much. I maybe incorrectly guessed that the 2014 Discovery module would work as I assumed the CAN bus remained the same for 2010 to 2016 Disco 4s. My car came with a number of modules with prefix CPLA so picked up this camera module with a CPLA prefix for £50 which is less than any other module available at the time.

Can you confirm the 2012 RRS with the revised FCDIM is different to the 2014 Disco 4 FCDIM?

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Vanny



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Between 2010 and 2016, D4 had 2x CAN architecture changes, one minor, one major. The later, major one was not carried into L320, as far as I know, as L494 was already near release. Unfortunately I'm not too knowledgeable about L320 but I would expect a 12my RRS FCDIM to be quite different to a 14my D4.

I think you just have to try it and see.

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Stuartc



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Exactly what Vanny said! I can tell you now that the CAN file for 2016 L319 will be completely different, 2016 was a breakpoint for L319 CAN and went from Dual CAN to Multi CAN.
You can get the camera softkey up without the IPMB connected but won’t do anything.
You can’t juat put a L319 FCDIM into a L320, it’s doesn’t work like that, especially as you’ve suggested as the FCDIM is a gateway module. MY15
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Thanks Gents, I really want to go ahead with this so I think it’s time for a plan change. I paid £50 for this unit so I think I’ll pop it back on eBay for £50 and try and get an L320 module from 2012/13. I’ll probably have to do some research on which would be correct as there’s quite a few variations shown (1 with the square JAE connectors but I think they’ve listed it wrong). I’ll probably also fit cameras similar or the same as Stuart’s fitted in the mirrors as they should fit the existing holes (or I can enlarge as required.

Sorry to question everything and try and get my head around things. You probably wouldn’t believe I maintain and carry out trials on generation 4.5 fighter aircraft yet I struggle to get my head around vehicle electronics.

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You’ll need to fit the Larger cameras/Fakra type not the small fakra ones as I’ve fitted as the L320 was never fitted with the smaller generation cameras.
The camera’s are specific to platforms/modules, especially the earlier ones.
The module will work but you’ll have no PDC information. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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The Evoque mirrors also have wade sensors, have you seen any CCF for enabling these?

Figured if I was to change to mirror, might as well add cameras, blind spot and wade at the same time!

Thanks

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Vanny



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Wade sensing you say;



DH52 FCDIM does NOT contain the software module to drive wade sensing, but the EH52 FCDIM does.

Its not just sensors though . . .

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Interesting.....

The evoque has a few different versions of the FCDIM, I’ll have to see what’s currently in mine.

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dansonamission



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Hi, does anyone know what style of plug is on the MY14+ camera module? The one with square plugs.

Got a loom with the fakra HDS connectors, hoping to convert these.

Thanks

Post #365753 6th Feb 2019 11:23 pm
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Stuartc



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The square plugs are JAE and you can’t swap JAE & Fakra HSD cables as the SW is different between the 2 various version. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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dansonamission



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Thanks Stuart. The cameras and IPMB are all 2014 with the JAE connectors. As i already have the main Fakra looms was looking to convert these cables as its still the same amount of cores.

Do you know of a source for the JAE cables?

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Stuartc



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That’s fine then Thumbs Up
You’ll have to get overlays and just use what you can to connect each camera. Pretty sure there were no overlays available for L538. I’ll post what LR numbers I have otherwise I have a few spares ones here as well. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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Great, much appreciated.
I found this place will make harnesses for you, looks like they could make the fakra to jae. http://zyxlvds.com/index.php/list/index/g/e/id/54.html

Which overlays are you talking about? The reversing overlays?

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I’ve managed to get mine working now, I found that GAP have updated the untested list with surround camera so activated that, plugged in the IPMB and camera and it works. Just need some cables which are proving difficult to source. The link above looks promising so will email them and see if they can supply individual leads made to measure.




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Stuartc



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That’s great Thumbs Up
Did you try your rear camera and check to see your PDC and guidance lines are working?
Maybe 2010 L320 doesn’t have these?
 MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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