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I Like Chips



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Discovery4 and Freelander 2 climbing Actions

Has this been posted before

Post #339608 16th Jan 2018 8:57 pm
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Shocked good God. Bow down If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Bow down Thumbs Up

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CJOver



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This looks like the course that they used to set up for the Land Rover stand at the Canary Wharf Car show - I went over/round it in a RR about 5 years ago with one of their drivers.

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pab



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A nice demonstration of why locking diffs are better than electronics at this sort of stuff. All that wheelspin and stopping and starting!

Post #339627 17th Jan 2018 9:43 am
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Which mode do they use for that in the demo? 2010 model year FL2 TD4e GS - now at 100,000 miles, 26,000 of them mine.
Previously:
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
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Tigger



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pab wrote:
A nice demonstration of why locking diffs are better than electronics at this sort of stuff. All that wheelspin and stopping and starting!


Nothing wrong with electronic traction control if people have been shown how to get the best out of it especially as, unlike looking diffs, it doesn’t have any adverse affect on the steering Thumbs Up


PS: I Like Chips, if you haven’t been on a LRE day, book yourself on a 1/2 day course and try it for real, preferably in lots of mud as well Thumbs Up you’re none to far from their great site near Ledbury Very Happy 2011 FL2 TD4 XS
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Agree with Tigger, Peckforton Castle a cracking experience too and what a place to stay if you fancy taking in a overnight stay as well. Thumbs Up

We had a DS doing the two wheel thing over a ditch full of muddy water !! the missus wasn't impressed Shocked Shocked Rolling with laughter If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Post #339710 18th Jan 2018 8:05 am
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pab



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Tigger wrote:
Nothing wrong with electronic traction control

It's complex and unreliable - just more to go wrong. Not such a problem on a lane in the Home Counties, but there's at least one post on here from someone in Australia who lost 4WD simply because mud build-up in the wheelarches pulled off an ABS sensor wire. Not good, and not something I'd want to trust in proper off-road situations. All this electronic gimmickry is aimed at people who never go off road anyway!

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Can one argue that almost all "proper 4x4" offroad vehicles today do have ABS and therefor also ABS sensor wires in their wheel-arches? Traction control is not that much (if at all) more complex than an ABS system. Mostly the same sensors, braking components, ABS pump and a control module.
So no real reliability compromise or complexity matter here. Small differences but not enough to call it complex and unreliable I would say. Whistle 2013 SD4 SE (hers)
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pab



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The difference is that if one has ABS with 'proper' diffs then a broken ABS wire will affect only the ABS function. On the FL2 a broken ABS wire can result in the complete loss of 4WD!

Exactly this happened to mikehzz: http://www.freel2.com/forum/post192530.html "I like going remote alone but I reckon the FL2 is actually a bit fragile to handle it now. At least my Jeep has a honking big lever that mechanically drops it into low range and locks the centre diff."

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I Like Chips



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I can't work out why the driver didn't drive round the obsticles, would have been easier.

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