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Bogart



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Stornoway Grey
Not starting

Hmmm following replacement of battery few weeks ago all was fine. Wife drove it yesterday in the snow all fine. Starting this morning was very sluggish took a good few cranks to fire. Parked up for 90 mins. Then would not start. Turns over fine so not battery. Called out recovery who have stated there is no fuel getting to the injectors. He cracked the fuel line open and on turning engine over no sign of diesel. He then took a plug off saying was on return line and should have signs of fuel there but nothing.
As car is parked only 100 yds from my local garage, who I do trust, decided to leave it there and give them a call monday.
Anything I should try before I ring them. As is rather nippy outside quick fixes appreciated. Smile

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westville



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As John Cleese often said "are you missing the bleeding obvious?"
I take it you do have fuel in the tank? Whistle No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

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Bogart



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Very Happy Yes plenty of diesel in the tank.

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Steve D



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What's the temperature up where you are? If cold, could it be the fuel waxing? Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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bbrap



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I'm assuming the filler cap breather is clear. Could be moisture frozen on the fuel cap creating a vacuum and stopping the fuel getting through. Pop the cap and listen for a big hiss. FL2 Metropolis, Loire Blue, ebony/ivory

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Bogart



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What's the temperature up where you are? If cold, could it be the fuel waxing?


Nippy but has been colder. If fuel was waxing I would have thought would not have started this morning after a night out in the cold. When parked this morning engine was warm so fuel in vicinity of injectors should have been fine to at least give impression of wanting to start after the 90 minute stop.


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Bogart



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bbrap wrote:
I'm assuming the filler cap breather is clear. Could be moisture frozen on the fuel cap creating a vacuum and stopping the fuel getting through. Pop the cap and listen for a big hiss.


Will try that later.

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westville



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Have you been using bio fuels? How old is your fuel filter?
Sounds like a blocked filter to me No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

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bbrap



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If you have the tools it could be worth pulling the right front connector from the fuel filter and attaching a hose with a bulb pump on to see if you can draw diesel through. That should prove if the filter/pickup is blocked. If you have a clear length of tube that will fit you can suck it through with your mouth, just keep an eye on the tube so you don't get a gob full. FL2 Metropolis, Loire Blue, ebony/ivory

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Bogart



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westville wrote:
Have you been using bio fuels? How old is your fuel filter?
Sounds like a blocked filter to me


Use whatever Tesco dish out which I think is Esso. Changed 2 yrs ago and under 20000 miles .If it was blocked I would have thought I would get erratic running first. Not running ok then nothing.

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Bogart



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bbrap wrote:
If you have the tools it could be worth pulling the right front connector from the fuel filter and attaching a hose with a bulb pump on to see if you can draw diesel through. That should prove if the filter/pickup is blocked. If you have a clear length of tube that will fit you can suck it through with your mouth, just keep an eye on the tube so you don't get a gob full.


Have a small 12v pump which I could perhaps use. Not sure which of the pipes to pull off as you state.I believe there are 4 in total, I think. I will have to try it in the morning as the car is in the village hall car park.

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taztastic



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Steve D wrote:
What's the temperature up where you are? If cold, could it be the fuel waxing?


Rolling with laughter its GB, it's never that cold Rolling with laughter

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billio



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I would start by having a look at the fuses. Understeer when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower how fast you hit the wall.
Torque how far you take the wall with you.

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bbrap



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Bogart wrote:
bbrap wrote:
If you have the tools it could be worth pulling the right front connector from the fuel filter and attaching a hose with a bulb pump on to see if you can draw diesel through. That should prove if the filter/pickup is blocked. If you have a clear length of tube that will fit you can suck it through with your mouth, just keep an eye on the tube so you don't get a gob full.


Have a small 12v pump which I could perhaps use. Not sure which of the pipes to pull off as you state.I believe there are 4 in total, I think. I will have to try it in the morning as the car is in the village hall car park.


When standing facing the car with the bonnet open, the fuel filter has 4 connectors, two on the left two on the right, you want to use the one on the right nearest to where you stand (furthest from the engine).

HTH FL2 Metropolis, Loire Blue, ebony/ivory

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Steve D



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taztastic wrote:
Steve D wrote:
What's the temperature up where you are? If cold, could it be the fuel waxing?


Rolling with laughter its GB, it's never that cold Rolling with laughter


In my apprenticeship days I had to go out with my mechanic to a regular fleet customer and warm up half their fleet with industrial space heaters to get the lorries to start in winter because the fuel had waxed in the pipes. Mind you, that was back in the days when winters were winters, even dahn sarf! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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