I love my facelift Freelander but it has a problem. All through winter i.e.air temp up to 10° C, no problems. Now that temps are regularly above 14°C the engine stutter intermittently. It seems to happen whilst accelerating. It is like the engine cuts for a couple of beats and is then fine again. I was so pleased to see it sort itself last autumn but the fault is back again.

I took it to LR main dealer to have the diff bearings replaced last summer. I didn't notice it so much then because I was thinking more about the diff. They very kindly downloaded and installed the latest software and changed the auto fluid but didn't explain why. They said that the computer told them there were no faults so which bemused me because as far as I was concerned the diff was the only problem. I think that they must have noticed the problem and had a couple of punts at fixing it.

Any thoughts gents?

Seems to be a common issue with 2011 cars when temp gets above 15 degrees, mine is doing same last couple of weeks. Been some chat about it before, I believe someone reported that LR have a car on test to id the issue but no fix yet as far as I know. 2014 SE Loire Blue SD4 Auto (MY15)
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Sounds like the dreaded MY11 facelift hesitation problems which LR don't know how to fix. My 11 reg is manual and had it. Went back to the dealers several times they upgraded the software, "re calibrated the airflow system" and then changed the fuel filter. Never any fault codes. Seems OK now but used to be air temperature dependent so only became apparent in the summer.

Have a look at this thread and see if yours is similar.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic20555.html 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Thanks gents. Sort of reassuring that it isn't only my FL but is it too late to get anything done about it?

40k and it's shot already.

Cars with character.  3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

I love todays vehicle technicians as they now call them, the computer says there nothing wrong so everything must be perfect and you must be imagining things.
Whatever happened to just having a look and the hands on approach?

I have said this elsewhere but the diagnostics on the FL2 (and probably a lot of other cars) are inadequate. I was told by a dealer that a lot of the fault codes are automatically deleted if the fault clears even if you have had a fault message up on the dashboard. This is ridiculous and probably dates from when memory chips had low capacity and were expensive but with modern technology you could easily keep a complete running log of every event in a car's lifetime. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Landiroamer wrote:

I love todays vehicle technicians as they now call them, the computer says there nothing wrong so everything must be perfect and you must be imagining things.
Whatever happened to just having a look and the hands on approach?

A man after my own heart. I did 15 years in various guises as a mechanic. Our diagnostics involved 'thinking about the problem'!
Whether it was a circuit racer or an Austin 1100, the basic process is the same. look at the problem in terms of what is happening and what controls the events that could lead to the problem.

Before I found this thread I have been thinking about the problem. It seems to be to do with temperature!!!

My observations are that it only happens on light throttle (in my case).

It is ambient temp dependant. (Engine temp doesn't affect the problem).

It seems that it isn't only an automatic transmission problem (or is it)?

It doesn't appear to be auto trans fluid (LR changed mine)

Is it fuel? (pumps, injectors, filters, fuel lines, turbo)

Is it electrical? (No HT so it can't be that).

Is it transmission? Are the auto trans different on later cars.

Is it running gear? (wheel speed sensors etc.).

Is it the headlining? (joke).

What is different on later car specs that prevents this problem?

Is it a 'sensor' that measures air temp causing some change?

Is it a fluid that react to the temp.

Come on guys, lets put our heads together

dorsetfreelander wrote:

Sounds like the dreaded MY11 facelift hesitation problems which LR don't know how to fix. My 11 reg is manual and had it. Went back to the dealers several times they upgraded the software, "re calibrated the airflow system" and then changed the fuel filter. Never any fault codes. Seems OK now but used to be air temperature dependent so only became apparent in the summer.

Have a look at this thread and see if yours is similar.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic20555.html

First of all mine is manual so it's not confined to autos. But remember that there is another big unknown in modern cars ie the software in the ECU which takes readings from various sensors and controls the injectors via a multidimensional engine map. My guess is that there is a set of circumstances depending upon load, temperature etc etc which result in the wrong signals sent momentarily to the injectors/EGR /Throtte body whatever. Having experience of writing computer code it can sometimes be a nightmare to find what causes a certain rogue outcome. I am also resigned to the fact that JLR has now moved on (Ingenium engine?) and that no resources will be made available to sort this out. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

EYorkshire has successfully had his problem resolved. He had originally posted in that thread some details about what LR did and how it relates to the LR bulletin for dealers to follow but has since removed them, perhaps under advice.

So there is a solution. I am just waiting for the temps to increase marginally for mine to reproduce consistently so the dealer has no reason to say that they could not reproduce it. However the dealer is now well aware of the LR bulletin, so I expect for it to be fixed.

I have booked mine in because it is now very annoying. The service guy said that it would cost me £95 for the first hour and would probably only result in sending info to LR.

Sent a PM chesqui

I'm pulling my caravan in Austria at the moment with ambient temps around 20 and above, with no sign of the hesitation/stuttering so yes its been cured.

Hi,

I've had and reported this problem to my dealer twice but they said they could not replicate it.

On my car it appears to only happen when the ambient temperature is over 16 degrees C and you pull out of a junction at low to medium throttle and you get a stutter or pause in power for a fraction of a second at around 1800rpm. Green Discovery 300tdi Modified,
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Contact Ryan@LandRover on this forum, he may be able to work with your dealer to get a resolution.