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taztastic wrote:

I go through manual gearboxes, I guess I am hard on them

I don't know why, I have had a few gearboxes replaced or repaired, never, ever one single clutch though, maybe there is a story there My early life was as a service engineer, chasing around with a heavily laden car, mainly Astra or Escort estates, so not the best cars.
Last 5 cars have been auto's, two DSG type and the rest standard and not a problem with any of them, around 200k miles covered in these cars with auto boxes.

taztastic wrote:

if you have gone through two then maybe there is an issue with the common denominator?

That was my thought however we have had 4 in the family and only (!) two have had a problem. In both cases it was difficulty in engaging 5th diagnosed as a synchromesh problem requiring the box to be sent off to a specialist. Agree about the common denominator theory being suspicious though.  3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

taztastic wrote:

I don't know why, I have had a few gearboxes replaced or repaired, never, ever one single clutch though, maybe there is a story there My early life was as a service engineer, chasing around with a heavily laden car, mainly Astra or Escort estates, so not the best cars.
Last 5 cars have been auto's, two DSG type and the rest standard and not a problem with any of them, around 200k miles covered in these cars with auto boxes.

could it be that you forget to use the clutch!

As I understand it the Discovery Sport, in manual form, is allowed the full potential of the engine at 190ps. How do they do this and is it a way ahead for Freelander 2 drivers who drive TD4 manuals and despair at its tortoise like response below 1100 rpm? No I`m not going to buy one!
Also why didn`t LR provide another setting, to be used when towing, on the terrain selector?
PS. I dont want an automatic box either.

Out of curiosity, what would a 'towing' setting achieve on a manual car?

My understanding of an auto box is that it's behaviour is modified electronically* in much the same way that the driver of a manual box would modify his gear selection behaviour to best suit the load being towed.

*subject of course to appropriate tow bar wiring being fitted.

Obviously it can`t govern the manual gearbox but would, via the ECU, modify the engine parameters to reduce the starting stresses with extra loading from towing, so protecting the components in the transmission that are deemed not up to par by LR

The engine management system does change the way the automatic gearbox operates when towing. But only if using genuine electrics. This doesn't work with after market electrics. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

I don't have any problems with the standard torque provided in the lower gears, but would be interested in a remap that LOWERS my peak torque in gears 5 and 6 to overcome my slipping clutch problem.
Nigel

For that you need to fix the clutch! 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Fix the clutch with what, the same spec components that can't handle the peak torque in 5th or 6th? Or have JLR up rated the clutch in the spare parts department and i am not aware of it?
Nigel

My previous 08 SE was a manual. I sold it at 103,000 miles with the original clutch still working perfectly. Never any slip problems. What is your mileage?

Some are unlucky but I am sure a new clutch/DMF and slave will do the trick. Limiting the torque is not the answer. 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Like many others have reported mine started slipping at about 25k. Now on 45k. I just modify my driving and don't put max torque on in 5th or 6th. Peugeot owners with same engine report the same issue. I would expect a remap to slightly reduce torque in 5th and 6th would be far cheaper than a replacement clutch / DMF and slave cylinder + labour and would give me similar driving performance to that at which i now drive. If it does not work then its easy to go back to the JLR map.
Nigel

We are not alone then. Ironically it is the torque that makes the engine so good for me as I tow a caravan. The 08 SE took us through Denmark/Sweden/Norway a few years ago (2013) towing a 1450kg caravan 3,000 miles door to door without a fault. I only changed to get HSE spec and the auto box which I prefer. I feel for you Nigel, it must be frustrating to drive.

It is a bit late now, admittedly, but when it first showed itself at 25K did you not contact LRCS for a contribution? On your first post above I truly thought you were joking, but I am still sure a new clutch kit will fix it.

Bob 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)