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JoaoPintoReis



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Roof Rails with/without panoramic roof

Hello!
What is the diferrence between the roof rails to FL2 without panoramic roof and with panoramic roof?
Because, the difference of the price is huge!
Regards
Joao Reis

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paxman



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Panoramic roof is a large piece of glass on your roof which let sunshine in your car. If your car hasn't got a piece of glass then it is "without panoramic roof" or your car hasn't got a sun roof. In general the roof rails used for the panoramic roof may be taller and the cross bar may be at different place (I guess as I don't have any roof rails).

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Post #263027 7th May 2015 4:35 pm
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JoaoPintoReis



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Hello!
Yes, i know what panoramic roof is.
What i wanted to know is that if there is any difference in the fittind of the two roof rails bars.
For example, if i don't open my panoramic roof, can i mount the roof railbars for non panoramic roof?
Is the difference between the to kits only the height?

What is the difference between LR007220 and LR006608?
Can i use the LR006608 in my freelander with panoramic roof, if i do not open/use it?

Regards

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Yes you can use any roof bars. The problem happens when someone who does not know you have the lower bars opens the roof and bang goes the glass and runners. Could prove expensive. FL2 Metropolis, Loire Blue, ebony/ivory

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Lightwater



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Pull the fuse out so you can't even accidentally forget.

I guess a new piece of glass installed would cost far more than the correct roof rails to start with.

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The bottom of the rail is above the metal part of the roof. The metal roof is about 3 mm higher at the folded edge next to the plastic filling strip, you can just see it in the photo. So without cross bars you only have 59 mm clearance between the rail & metal roof.

The centre of the cross bar is 77 mm above the metal but this is a mute point as the rail at 59mm has less clearance & the clamp only has 50 mm clearance. All 3 dimensions would be over the glass roof if I had one.

If you need some more measurements at various points let me know. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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JoaoPintoReis



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The crossbar isn't installed in the back part of the rails?
Does the glass when opened goes till or even further then the yellow line, till the crossbar??
And he gets higher then the green line?
I hope that i can make myself understand. My english is not perfect.







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Lightwater



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Maybe when the sunroof is open it's ok. But when the sunroof is opening this is where the problem is with clearance. When the back edge of the glass raises to open, the back corners of the glass hit the underside of the roof rails on either side of the car as the roof rails are over the glass.

The heights of the glass roof in all positions will need to be measured carefully. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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JoaoPintoReis



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These are the pictures that i took to my own FL2:














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JoaoPintoReis



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So, from what i understand, can this be the problem?




Fromk what i see and understand, it is not a problem of height but the problem is the window will not run because of the front suport of the rail?

But if the difference of the kit is the height... where does that leave us?

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Lightwater



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Hope this helps. If you need more dimensions mark up the image.

The left ruler is backwards, 150mm starts at the edge to the windscreen. So the 2 rulers total 300mm

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The Freelander 2013 brochure says:
Raised Roof Rails and Cross Brace Kit
Panoramic Sunroof vehicles LR007220
Non Panoramic Sunroof vehicles LR006608
Vehicle height when fitted 1,830mm. Maximum payload 75kg.

The one height of 1,830mm is for both roof rail installations!

Cross Kit
LR002417
when fitted 1,852mm Maximum payload 71.8kg

So with cross bars 1,852mm height. Only the one dimension for roof cross bars fitted on both roof rail installations! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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JoaoPintoReis



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Hello again.
Thanks for the patience that has taken me to this subject
I post two more pictures i took to my sun roof.






So, the difference of the two kits, if they have the same height, is the front piece that is cut in order to open the panoramic roof?

Regards
Joao Reis

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Lightwater



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Photo straight on, hope this helps.

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Probably best to make a basic template to represent the roof rack front & lightly stick it on the car with masking tape to see if there is enough clearance. In the image the cross brace is level & shot further back with 300mm so the image is fairly straight on. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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JoaoPintoReis



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Hello!
This last picture is perfect to understand the difference!
I will buy the correct kit for me!
Then, when i have it mounted, i will took some pictures like yours to put them here in the forum to other people that have doubts.
Thanks
Regards

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