Oh on the 10:04 shuttle train saturday morning!

Just booked Newhaven - Dieppe with DFDS this weekend hopefully French farmers don't protest there lol!

very wise.. the situation changes daily if not by the hour.
Have a good journey.

Just returned from 3 weeks in France.
Carnage at Dover on the outbound journey and we travelled during the night to head for the tunnel.
We were taken off at J8 and had to drive about 31 miles through all the lanes to the tunnel.
The lorries at that time were parked along both sides of the A20 as far as the eye could see and further.
Every single gap was filled with trucks.
I have a Pal who lives in Ashford and he said during the day it would take 3.5 hrs just to cross the town.
It was bad enough at 02.30am and added an extra 1.5 hrs on the journey !

Once over lots of immigrants wandering the roads !

On our return the queues to the tunnel and surrounding area was horrendous. Again we opted for a late crossing return which helped. Again lots of immigrants just wandering around ! but more security than I have seen before.

We visited Cite Europe at 11.30 AM and it was dead. I have a photo with not a single person standing in the main shopping isle.
We also experienced the farmers burning rubber tyres in the middle of roads and causing chaos.
They should be prosecuted for criminal damage and causing excessive smoke and emissions !

This year was our 25th year of travelling to France but beginning to question whether to bother any-more.
Is the travel hassle worth it ! NO
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The migrant situation is Frances fault because they let them in in the first place. They should not be waiting to cross to the UK as they are supposed to be dealt with by the country they enter first under EU law.

Possibly incorrect, but somehow they seem to get them?
Our system should not be any better than any other country in the EU, I mean we're all in it together, arent we?

The English language is the UKs downfall, the immigrants dont like the other countries because they cant understand whats going on, where all who come here can speak English, and the few that cant can still manage to say Asylum, Benefits Office, Money and House.

update for you guys.. the emigrants no longer bother with the lorries but just walk through the tunnel.
As a result 'Stack' is in force again today on M20 J8-J9. Its also the busiest holiday weekend and there is a War and Peace show on at Folkestone racecourse, on the A20 nr Junc11 M20..

I suspect the French ferry workers will also add to the problems.. you have been warned. Kent Police are saying Stack maybe in all weekend, so plan for delay to your journeys. Bad weather is forecast too which will delay ferry crossings.
see latest http://www.folkestoneherald.co.uk/Operatio...story.html

PS.. It seems a French jobs rescue package is being proposed for the MyFerry workers, so that might at least restore the situation to normal emigrant/weather chaos. As I understand the situation today, its only P&O ferries operating from Dover as the DFDS boats are occupied by strikers. P&O hope to bring in another boat to help move the backlog.

Thank CJB, I imagine the locals aren't happy with the road situation! It surely affects their daily routine and all aspect of their lives.

Yes Its a pity the stacking scheme doesnt extend past 10 Downing Street round the corner and by Buckingham Palace it would all be sorted out tomorrow then

LOL.. yes indeed. I'm afraid we live with it year on year due to weather delays but this year has been exceptional.

Would you believe the message has only just got through to the Transport Minister that we have a roads problem.. and the Immigration Minister has yet to visit Calais himself to see the scale of the migrant camp.. currently 5000 waiting to enter UK.

Kent County Council is looking after 500 migrant children at a cost of £5million to the local taxpayer and Kent Police have already spent £750,000 this year policing 'Stack'.

Current situation is that 'Stack' is expected to be in all weekend M20 J8-9, but high winds tonite could add to the ferry delays.
As always, check road traffic reports.
Good luck guys.

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The migrant situation is Frances fault because they let them in in the first place. They should not be waiting to cross to the UK as they are supposed to be dealt with by the country they enter first under EU law.

In that case they should be dealt with in Italy or Greece.

Apart from the Schengen Agreement allowing free movement between EU countries, France has 2884 km of borders with other countries.

I guess it could keep a couple of fencing contractors busy for a while.

Update as of midday 26 July

Stack has been partly lifted but remains between M20 J8-9 for lorries. heavy rain and high winds today will delay ferry crossings.

A temporary contraflow will be put in place asap on M20 to allow normal traffic to use the M20 to and from Dover until a more permanent solution of lorry parks can be put in place.. in the future !!

Would advise anyone using Dover next few weeks to keep looking at news updates and traffic reports. This weekend drivers experienced 5 hour delays and seemed oblivious of the problem until they arrived at Maidstone.

Migrants in Calais are now attacking the Euro tunnel terminal at Calais on a daily basis, which is causing the train services to be delayed.

Still Lost in France wrote:

Apart from the Schengen Agreement allowing free movement between EU countries, France has 2884 km of borders with other countries.

I guess it could keep a couple of fencing contractors busy for a while.

Migrants in Calais are now attacking the Euro tunnel terminal at Calais

Surely thats a case for deporting them back to where they came from then?

Once they get here they will be attacking the benefits system too no doubt.

All I can say is its a jolly good job there some water between here and there.