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DAC364



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OBD port locks can help, anything that slows them down will help and mayde make them go somewhere else.

Unfortunately technology becomes outdated/compromised very quickly Sad

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just rang that company i found, waiting on a call back regards to the cost of it

though looking at my obd port, it would have to be moved to allow it to be screwed to something my substantial,

so, looking elsewhere, some BMW, have simply, removed the port and relocated to a completely different place, by means of ODB port extension cables etc

something to think about if someone is really worried

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Problem with the OBD port is that it 'has to be located with reach of the drivers seat' or thereabouts due to EU directives (grrrr).

The obvious answer would be for manufacturers to be able to hide/secure it. Would make diagnostics difficult/expensive I suppose.

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Not to mention making life difficult for those of us who use our own OBD interfaces.

Post #223316 28th Apr 2014 2:55 pm
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why on earth does a port need to be reachable from a drivers seat Shocked not like your going to be plugging things in whilst driving along the country lane/motorway Confused

If you located it though, if the worse was to happen, they wouldn't be able to instantly find it, to reprogram the key, so making life difficult and possibly saving your car from a trip to africa

If you relocate it, then you will know were it is to plug in too Thumbs Up

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Thinking about it, although the OBD port receives power with the ignition off the interface can't talk to the car until the ignition is on. Thus, no key to turn on the ignition, no comms via the OBD. That would seem to achieve the necessary security if one really can't do anything without a key.

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pab wrote:
Code grabbers, no, they use pretty sophisticated encryption techniques these days. But researchers have demonstrated a vulnerability with keyless entry systems, using range extenders to make the car think the key is within range when it's not. E.g. you could be sitting in a restaurant having a meal. Someone at the next table has a range extender which retransmits the signals between car and fob, and your car is fooled and unlocks! I don't know how much of a problem this is in practice, but it has apparently been done.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/422298/car-theft-by-antenna/


Which is a good reason why keyless entry is ridiculous - when did humans get SO lazy they can't press a key fob? OK, you have a handful of gear, but you still have to open the door, so pray tell me what use is keyless entry? Tech for the sake of it IMO. Glad I don't have it.

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