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pip99



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Rimini Red
freelander 2 inlet manifold flap broke off

Our 2006 freelander 2 GS has had an inlet manifold flap break off go through the valve and wreck the piston it is fully serviced and only done 70000 miles the cost of the repairs is going to be 2600. just wondering if anyone else has had a problem like this or heard of it

Post #197981 5th Sep 2013 5:50 pm
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npinks



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Manifold flap comes up a few time when search for

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Post #197982 5th Sep 2013 5:54 pm
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am_in_o



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France 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

hello,

I had the same problem , flaps broken and goes to the engine
big damage and more than 2000 repair cost

my Freelander had 110.000 miles when it occurs
I decided to remove the 4 flaps , to avoid the same problem in the future,
and it work well without flaps (30.000 miles since the reparation)


thanks,

Post #202739 11th Oct 2013 6:52 pm
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dunkley201



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

What is the function of the flaps? What is the impact of removing them? 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey - HEL braided brake lines, LR side steps,"Facelift" front bumper & tail lights. Si4 twin pipe box. 19” Triple Sports with Conti UHPs.
05 SEAT Alhambra 130TDi.
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Post #202742 11th Oct 2013 7:32 pm
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EYorkshire



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2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Alex commented on their use, here's a cut and paste from it.

Quote:
Generally, the flap system can be used in 2 situations:
1. Modifying the optimum/maximum torque point of an engine, by varying the length of the intake system.
2. Improving intake air velocity at various RPMs in order to fill much easier and optimum the cylinders.


Also a few have removed the flaps with no problems and someone replaced the complete pipe with the updated one.

Post #202767 12th Oct 2013 9:34 am
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Infradig



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That's bad luck, and very annoying.
I wasn't aware that the Mondeo engine had swirl flaps , but a bit of googling reveals that the geniuses at Land Rover were the first to use them on TDcI's! Mk3 models didn't have them but after the Freel2 the 2007 fat Mondeo's did.
Perhaps Land Rover dealers were worried that there wouldn't be enough warranty work if they didn't put a boobytrap in there somewhere.
Looking around on eBay etc there don't appear to be blanking kits available......yet.
Could be an opportunity for a forum group buy/ manufacturing commission ,we are probably the biggest group of 'enthusiast' users of this engine, at least until XF's get a bit cheaper. 2007 Freelander 2 2.2TD4 HSE manual (Hers)
2010 BMW 530D Estate (Mine)
2001 Mercedes CLK convertible (Hers)
That doesn't seem fair, time to find a 300Tdi
Range Rover for me !

Post #202776 12th Oct 2013 11:49 am
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Steve D



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Hmmm. So there's two in this post that have had this happen. Either it's a common fault or it's common that those that do have this happen to them start looking on the 'net and end up on this site. As both of those that have had this happen have only ever made the one post, I am hoping it's the latter and not the former. Are there any long- term members on here that have had this happen and if so, at what mileage? Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Present: Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto

Post #202777 12th Oct 2013 11:59 am
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Truck



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Just had the same problem,has anyone contacted customer care with any results? My own freelander is 07 with 80,000 miles

Post #208126 20th Nov 2013 10:29 pm
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BossBob



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Baltic Blue

I've not had this problem yet, (touching wood furiously), and don't want it. If anyone is thinking of a group buy I'm in!

Post #208135 21st Nov 2013 6:25 am
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rpjweeks



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Sumatra Black

My 2007 (57) Freelander 2 with 137,000 miles has just suffered the same problem. Three out of four flaps were misplaced. One of the pins is missing. There is low compression on #2 cylinder, so now engine head to be removed for further investigation.

Can anybody confirm if a new replacement air intake manifold still has these butterfly flaps? I think on new vehicles they're gone, but not sure about the replacement part for older (2007) vehicles?

My advice, replace your air intake manifold if your mileage is 70 - 90K. Much cheaper (less than 150 for manifold l think) than repairing engine damage. I am expecting cost of repairs to be at least 2000...

Post #212182 27th Dec 2013 9:32 pm
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lrd300



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2007 LR2 TD4 SE Manual Zermatt Silver

am_in_o how did you remove the swirl flaps?

Post #223112 26th Apr 2014 11:10 am
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marklp



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

To put forward a different perspective - I used to run an E60 530d and the beemer forums were full of tales of woe of swirl flaps coming loose and being ingested by the engine with catastrophic results. The problem seemed to be so common that I felt compelled to take the inlet manifold off to check mine - which were all absolutely rock solid with no sign of becoming loose whatsoever. While putting the manifold back on, I managed to snap one of the bolts by over-torqueing it. Rolling Eyes

I'm not saying the problem doesn't occur - but forums are a magnet for people who do have faults...and it does present a somewhat distorted version of reality. 2010 Freelander 2 HSE Auto Santorini Black / Ebony Leather

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alex_pescaru



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Romania 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Alaska White

Indeed....... Thumbs Up Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads... Go beyond !

Post #226717 8th Jun 2014 7:29 pm
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fredastaire



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Santorini Black

For my MY2010 (for other reasons), I had to fit a replacement engine which was a 2011 specification.
The 2010 engine has flaps; the 2011 is without.
.
As part of the work I removed and handled both manifolds; they are identical mouldings and have moulded in part numbers for with and without.
.
On re-installation I refitted my 2010 manifold with flaps and regret the decision.
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My intention is to change back to the newer manifold and blank the vacuum pipe that operates the flaps.
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If only I knew how to remove the actuator and just rotate the flap shaft to fully open and fix it to no longer rotate.
.
My guess would be that it is EGR exhaust gooey crud that causes the failing and breakage; can anyone confirm this?
.
Kind regards from Fred.
. 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
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1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
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Post #226729 9th Jun 2014 7:34 am
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alex_pescaru



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Quote:
On re-installation I refitted my 2010 manifold with flaps and regret the decision

Could you please comment a little on this please?... Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads... Go beyond !

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