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Suckfish



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DS £13,500 on Autotrader

Just seen on Autotrader Discovery sport 2.2 with 158k for £13,500

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You could buy a nice FL2 for that kind of money Wink Thumbs Up

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Andy131



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2.2 engine DS

would that be the DS that doesn't inject masses of fuel into the exhaust to burn out the soot. The one that doesn't eat balance shafts, the one that doesn't use a litre of adblue every thousand miles, the one that doesn't require major surgery when the timing chain requires work (chain at wrong end of engine next to flywheel). The one with an engine that should last 200k+

Bargain, especially if it is a 5 seat version with a spare wheel. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Andy131 wrote:

would that be the DS that doesn't inject masses of fuel into the exhaust to burn out the soot. The one that doesn't eat balance shafts, the one that doesn't use a litre of adblue every thousand miles, the one that doesn't require major surgery when the timing chain requires work (chain at wrong end of engine next to flywheel). .


This neatly sums up my reasons for never buying a diesel DS. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

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Suckfish



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The one in the advert is the 2.2, so perhaps that's the one to go for.

However in a few years will be banned like the rest of us from driving into any city.
However unlike the 2.0 at least the car will still be going and has not eaten its way through the balance shafts.

Does anyone know if the DS 2.2 manual has a better geared reverse gear?

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Mowog



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Suckfish wrote:
The one in the advert is the 2.2, so perhaps that's the one to go for.

However in a few years will be banned like the rest of us from driving into any city.
However unlike the 2.0 at least the car will still be going and has not eaten its way through the balance shafts.

Does anyone know if the DS 2.2 manual has a better geared reverse gear?


Driving into any city.........................now that IS something I will miss...................

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j77



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Andy131 wrote:
2.2 engine DS

would that be the DS that doesn't inject masses of fuel into the exhaust to burn out the soot. The one that doesn't eat balance shafts, the one that doesn't use a litre of adblue every thousand miles, the one that doesn't require major surgery when the timing chain requires work (chain at wrong end of engine next to flywheel). The one with an engine that should last 200k+

Bargain, especially if it is a 5 seat version with a spare wheel.


2.2 a good engine.

The one that many on here told me I was mad to get in a new car, with the new engine just around the corner, the new engine that would give exceptional MPG and be smoother and quieter Rolling with laughter ingenium or incompetent whatever you want to call it. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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The latter I think......incompetent. Rolling with laughter Granted it's quieter, but brothers DS fares no better on economy than my rattly old Euro 5 PSA Tractor engine.......

I know who in the family has the more capable Land Rover all round, and so does he... Laughing MY13 HSE Lux.......faultless since new.

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Boxbrownie



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j77 wrote:
Andy131 wrote:
2.2 engine DS

would that be the DS that doesn't inject masses of fuel into the exhaust to burn out the soot. The one that doesn't eat balance shafts, the one that doesn't use a litre of adblue every thousand miles, the one that doesn't require major surgery when the timing chain requires work (chain at wrong end of engine next to flywheel). The one with an engine that should last 200k+

Bargain, especially if it is a 5 seat version with a spare wheel.


2.2 a good engine.

The one that many on here told me I was mad to get in a new car, with the new engine just around the corner, the new engine that would give exceptional MPG and be smoother and quieter Rolling with laughter ingenium or incompetent whatever you want to call it.


Just before the F-Pace was launched we test drove the demo with a view to ordering a 2L Auto, we had driven literally 50 yards from the main dealer when we stopped looked at each other and wondered what was wrong, we turned around went back and chatted to the salesman about the god awful noise the engine was making, he said well it is only the 2 litre 4 cylinder so it will be noisy Shocked we told him we had arrived in our two and a half year old Audi Q3 which also had a 2 litre 4 cylinder and was almost inaudible inside the cabin where as the F-Pace had actually made us stop and worry there was something wrong, it really was an awful engine, his answer to our moaning was “well why don’t you try the 3 litre, it’s much quieter” Censored

I know it was very early days for the Ingenium, but hells bells it was cr@p! Regards

David

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Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Post #372174 17th May 2019 4:16 pm
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Andy131



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See I think that the ignium engine is quieter than our 2.2 FL2 - then again it did have full mud terrain tyres on Very Happy
And it definitely gives much better fuel economy 28 vs 37mpg - could the 9 speed gearbox help?


I bought the last of the Rover engined FL1, the newer version had already come out, but I didn't fancy being a guinea pig for the new BMW engined version. Big mistake, what I (and others) didn't realise is that LR had "fixed" the ratio problem with the IRD unit, that caused the transmission to self destruct at about 120k and chew through tyres every 15k.

Point is you can be caught out by buying into the first of the new technology, and you can be caught out by staying with the same old cr*p. Bit of a lottery really.

I went for the ignium because we had a Ewok with 2.2 engine and 9 speed box and it was the worst car I have ever owned, to the point where, if this engine only lasts 100k and I have to drop another one in to get me to the 200k, then it will still be money well spent. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

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j77



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I have the 2.0 240 in my Velar, it’s plenty quick enough but it’s gruff at times. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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DiL has the same engine (240) in her new D5 and it’s a completely different engine to the previous in her DS models, the first DS had the 2.2 and the car had continuous electrical issues, engine fine though, then two more but with the Ingenium engine and although the electrical issues had by then been sorted and reliable the engine in the second DS was awful but in the third DS it was fine. Took LR a while to finally sort the Ingenium out. Regards

David

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Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

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