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Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2555

As a matter of curiousity, what did you drive during your “sabbatical”?

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27th May 2018 11:59 am

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2555

Tigger wrote:
ronp wrote:
There are a lot of people who are expecting big things of the new Defender, with a proper return to firm. However, all of the very recent evidence would point towards Gerry McGovern coming up with Barbie’s perfect Suzuki Vitara replacement

And even more people who aren't expecting big things of the new Defender

There are quite a few D4 drivers who are depending on the next Defender being the true replacements for their current ‘4’s, which is a bit optimistic, even if they are prepared to wait long enough to find out. Many of us have given up waiting and simply moved on.

With many traditional new Defender buyers having moved on to Toyota, Nissan, VW, Mitsubishi, Isuzu et al, how much more difficult is it going to be winning them back, once they’ve developed new loyalties, than it would have been if they hadn’t neglected them in the first place?!

27th May 2018 1:41 pm

Mowog

Member Since: 11 Apr 2018
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 441

Tigger wrote:
As a batter of curiousity, what did you drive during your “sabbatical”?

Luckily, after more than half a century in the motor trade I can have the use of most vehicles.
But mostly a 2006 Berlingo Multispace.
(Lots of other vehicles also, but would rather not say)

I really like the low door window height of the Freelander

Maybe a Landcruiser Amazon VX might have suited me.

27th May 2018 7:55 pm

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2555

Darn practical they are too I used to borrow one of those at work when I needed to shift anything at the weekend

Unfortunately, a low window height is getting much rarer , as function becomes a lower and lower design priority

27th May 2018 8:25 pm

LR NUT

Member Since: 12 May 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 4350

2014 Freelander 2 TD4_e Dynamic Manual Fuji White

I’m not a fan of of the newer styling. But let’s look at some facts however...

1. McGovern has contributed making the brand more successful
2. A lot of Defenders buyers (farmers) moved on years ago to jap stuff. JLR don’t need the Defender name/model to make them more money.
3.The Defender cost JLR money to manufacture. The Celebration Series was the turning point. MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

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27th May 2018 9:03 pm

Mowog

Member Since: 11 Apr 2018
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 441

I wonder if a Land Rover pickup would be any good?

27th May 2018 9:04 pm

aesmith

Member Since: 10 Jul 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 76

We've owned exclusively Land Rover cars since the late 90's, originally a Range Rover, but followed by a RR P38, a Freelander 1 and now we have an FL2 and a Defender. To me as a user the FL2 doesn't seem dated, other than maybe in terms of fuel consumption.

Of the Land Rovers we've owned the one I look back on nostalgically is our first Range Rover. This was a late 3.5L with the chain driven transfer box and viscous coupling in place of diff lock. Aside from the Defender of course, each of our later Land Rovers has had slightly worse off road capabilities than it's predecessor, in spite of ABS and traction control and the other electronic goodies. ----------
Tony S

18th Jun 2018 12:35 pm

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