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RogB



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remember it only too well..... eating and drinking drills, urination and defecation drills, decontamination drills, calling out name rank and number all while coughing my lungs ups with my eyes and throat burning from the CS tablets effects.

so yes, easy to replicate with no long term damage to health but the initial visual effect would be very disturbing to some. 2001 FL1 TD4 GS Auto 3 Door Tonga Green
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Post #347261 12th Apr 2018 12:36 pm
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Yorky Bob



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I rest my case M'Lord. 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
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JulesK



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One part of report I found strange this time was it looked to me the SAME video that was shown a few years ago and I say this because when we watched the one from a few years back my missus said that a little boy on there looked like her nephew (he is Welsh and safe and well in Wales), Now when it was on the TV Tuesday night the same child was there.
Coincidence.Fake news or a very unlucky child to be gassed in one part of Syria then gassed again in another part.

I don't have any answers but this is being played out not to defeat Putin or Assad but is an attempt by USA to get at Iran IMO. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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So it begins.

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carlsson



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Impeach

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dorsetfreelander



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Astronomers are coming around to the view that the reason that we haven't found extraterrestrial life is that civilizations develop the means to destroy themselves so that as soon as they develop advanced technology some idiot will do something stupid with it. In fact the Astronomer Royal, Sir Martin Rees has written a book called "Our Final Century".
40 years ago as a research chemist I had the knowledge and capability to make all sorts of nasties but now you can get recipes and know how for making explosives and poisons off the internet and have a go yourself (some terrorists have even blown themselves up at home doing it). What worries me is when terrorists get access to gene editing technology and release biological weapons. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto no real problems
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JulesK



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Just a matter of time Crying or Very sad If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Jimboland



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Yorky Bob wrote:
Of course exposing those kids to chlorine gas is much more heinous than the high explosives

So to train me to be sharp in getting into a gas attack mode years ago I was taken into a gas room where CS gas was let free.



CS gas training was just a bit of a doddle - until the order to take off your gas mask was given.

J

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dorsetfreelander



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Fundamentally it all went wrong after the fall of the Soviet Union. The west should have embraced Russia and got it onside, now Russia feels that with the expansion of the EU and loss of influence over its former "empire" Putin has the ammunition to blame the west for everything that goes wrong. It always amazes me that despite being the largest country on the planet the population is only about twice that of the UK and the GDP is a lot less than ours. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto no real problems
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Yorky Bob



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Looks like my recent idea of going by train from Moscow to Vladivostok is looking a bit flaky. Rolling Eyes 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
Lots of Euro Trash
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Russia's GDP is within a few dollars of us! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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For ones that have the patience to watch and digest....

 Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads... Go beyond !

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Yorky Bob



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Watched and listened most fully.

Those that have voted only ever one way in the UK will view it as they see fit but the BBC do themselves no favours when they ask any eminent politician a series of questions and are not prepared to allow them to answer. My own recent view of the BBC is its now more state controlled than ever. and we are in a very dangerous place.

Those with mega money are running scared of social media as it is now able to inform us what the truth really is and I need to load my fridge with another bottle of champagne to be opened the day Murdoch dies. 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
Lots of Euro Trash
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Yorky Bob



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Lifted

A commentator - a certain Aubrey Bailey - recently wrote an incisive reply to an article in the UK newspaper The Daily Mail, entitled "Clear as Mud". The piece below is based on his original comment, but I expanded it to make the Mid East situation not only as clear as mud, but as paradoxical as quantum mechanics. To make sense of the Middle East is the equivalent of braiding fog, or erecting a tower made of egg yolks.
Are you confused by what is going on in the Middle-East? Let's try to explain.
For a decade we supported Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein by providing him with weapons of mass destruction, during which time he was using them to slaughter his own people. Then when Iraq was no threat to anyone except the expansion of al Qaeda's influence, we invaded that country and overthrew its government - which had nothing to do with 9/11 - and allow Islamist extremists, the sworn enemy of Saddam's Baathist regime, to gain a foothold in Iraq and eventually create ISIS.
Now, we support the Iraqi government in its fight against ISIS. We don’t like ISIS but ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia whom we do like. In fact we like Saudi Arabia so much that evidence linking top Saudi officials and royalty with the 9/11 attacks was redacted by President Bush and remains classified to this day.
We really liked the progenitors of Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan in the 1980s, by supplying them with $billions in weapons, equipment and funds to defeat the Soviet Union which was so dysfunctional it couldn't even feed its own population, let alone wage war against the West. In fact we liked the Afghan Mujahadeen so much that President Reagan invited their top militant hardliners to the White House where they were regaled as the Mid Eastern freedom fighting equivalent of the US Founding Fathers. Then when the Soviets got kicked out, we were now shy of an enemy, so with the wave of a magic wand - "Araba-cad-araba" -our friend became our enemy. Pooouuff!
We don’t like President Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but not ISIS, which is also fighting against him, as have al Qaeda in Syria, and just as in Libya, with covert US support. In fact, we never liked Col. Gadhafi of Libya at all (barring a certain Rep. Peter King (R, NY) who brokered deals with him to supply the Provisional IRA terrorist group with weapons and explosives). We hated Gadhafi so much that we and NATO allied with al Qaeda rebels to depose the Libya government causing Libya to embrace Islamic fundamentalism, which we are allegedly fighting against.
We don’t like Iran, but the Iranian government supports the Iraqi government against ISIS. So, some of our friends support our enemies and some of our enemies are our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting our other enemies, whom we don’t want to lose, but we don’t our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win.
“If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And, all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who weren’t actually there until we went in to drive them out – do you understand now?”
And I haven't even gotten started on Israel, Palestine, Hezbollah, opium from Afghanistan, oil from the Caspian, the Taliban, and our old CIA buddy-boy Osama bin Laden, and 9/11.
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Oh wait... do we have a Eureka moment maybe? - Perhaps this is all because we're supplying all sides with weapons and bombs (except the Palestinians of course, whom we hate by default), enabling our parasitic military-security-prison-surveillance industrial complex to provide healthy bottom lines and quarterly statements courtesy of hundreds of Billions of dollars in taxpayer funded corporate welfare. Defense (offense?) contracts means jobs in many congressional districts, and jobs means re-election. ( Censored whores, the lot of 'em).
To try to clear up any confusion, just apply the perennial solution: "Follow The Money". 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
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The Doctor



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Outstanding Yorky Bob Thumbs Up Enjoyed reading that.

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