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CJOver



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Police HGVs

Interesting article

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-sup...-motorways

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I know this will probably lead to some heated debates by some, but I am all for the use of unmarked Police vehicles of any sort to enforce traffic regulations. Updated- Waiting for a Scotland v England 6 Nations home win. 24th Feb 2018
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but think back to the days of marked Police patrol cars on the motorways, there was always a 69-71mph exclusion zone for several miles around the marked car and everyone resorted to text book driving.

now you don't where they are as they in unmarked cars with concealed cameras and blue lights, and yet more people are caught speeding and driving dangerously.

yes... I know that not knowing where unmarked cars are should make drivers drive properly all the time to be on the safe side but human nature ensures that doesn't happen

yes... there is a place for unmarked patrol cars as sometimes covert techniques are needed for certain situations

but... unmarked patrol cars should not be deployed as a matter of routine as marked patrol cars are massively more effective in prolonged conformity to traffic regulations.

It costs no more to deploy a marked car than it does an unmarked one but the marked cars don't generate as much revenue in the form of fines as everyone is driving properly around them. 2001 FL1 TD4 GS Auto 3 Door Tonga Green
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Jimboland



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I think we need to have both marked and unmarked cars in sufficient numbers on our roads.

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RogB



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agreed, but at the moment the main highways are just HATO and unmarked which are no real deterrent to speeders and idiot drivers.

maybe have 4 marked and 1 unmarked to cover what 5 unmarked are covering now as an example. 2001 FL1 TD4 GS Auto 3 Door Tonga Green
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How many cars do we see with headlights faulty etc. Marked cars work and can pay for themselves with fines but the political will to do it is not there. 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
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We've had the Police "unmarked trucks" here in Kent for months now and the amount of illegal HGV's that are pulled is high,
not just phones it's been using laptops watching films, eating meals and even reading a book!
also a number of the HGV's once stopped are found to have faults regarding tyres and lights plus excess hours,
so for me I'm more than happy to know the unmarked vehicles are pulling them off our roads,
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There’s one on the m62 in west yorks I noticed him yesterday. !! Bit sly really !!

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axle



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For the record they are LGV,s, have been for years.
I think they are a good idea but it seems like people think it's just to catch truckers, wrong, they can now see the things I've seen car drivers doing for years, eating, reading, writing, using phones and lap tops, reading maps, getting changed, having sex, putting on make-up, drinking, yes same things happen in trucks, we are the same as you and do the same things, for every thing I've seen a trucker do wrong and there are loads I've seen 100 car drivers do the same, on a motorway we can do 60mph but have a limiter set for 56mph + or -, so who speeds the most? highest speeds go to motor bikers, majority of speeders are car drivers. yes I know you've see a truck doing 70mph, not a limiter in the world to stop a 44t truck over running down hill, and have a look at there reg plates and see how many are GB, there are loads who ignore the driving time etc, but most don't, the fines are very high we can loose our licence and thus are jobs, cars don't have any record of speeding once they have slowed down we have for years on a tacho.
So before slagging us off check your own house first.
live and let live.


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CJOver



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I think that they are using trucks because car drivers are not expecting them and the HGV driver has the ability to look down and into cars. According to the article they are with a police car which then stops the offending driver.

They appear not to be after the speeders but the idiots who do other idiotic / dangerous things.

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RogB



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axle wrote:
For the record they are LGV,s, have been for years.
I think they are a good idea but it seems like people think it's just to catch truckers, wrong, they can now see the things I've seen car drivers doing for years, eating, reading, writing, using phones and lap tops, reading maps, getting changed, having sex, putting on make-up, drinking, yes same things happen in trucks, we are the same as you and do the same things, for every thing I've seen a trucker do wrong and there are loads I've seen 100 car drivers do the same, on a motorway we can do 60mph but have a limiter set for 56mph + or -, so who speeds the most? highest speeds go to motor bikers, majority of speeders are car drivers. yes I know you've see a truck doing 70mph, not a limiter in the world to stop a 44t truck over running down hill, and have a look at there reg plates and see how many are GB, there are loads who ignore the driving time etc, but most don't, the fines are very high we can loose our licence and thus are jobs, cars don't have any record of speeding once they have slowed down we have for years on a tacho.
So before slagging us off check your own house first.
live and let live.


I'll go and hide in a corner now.


take it your a Yorkie bar man then Axle ? Laughing

a lot of car drivers are idiots, a lot of wagon drivers are idiots, and a lot of idiot wagon drivers are from foreign shores where they disappear back to very quickly if they are caught on camera etc. But there are also a fair share of GB truckers who can be idiots too.

Im not singling out any type of vehicle, nationality or anything, any type of idiot deserves to be pulled over.

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If it takes "unmarked" police vehicles,
to remove badly driven/maintained or illegal HGV's, LGV's,Cars or bikes off our roads, then I'm happy with it,
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Yes I am RogB, have been for 30 years, I'd like a pound for every mile I've done Very Happy
That's the point I was trying to make, just a bit Censored off that Dave47 singled us out, like to see how many car drivers could drive a artic let alone pass a LGV test which makes a car test look easy!
Idiots everywhere. Shocked Common sense isn't very common.
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Strange thing , you watch TV , Traffic Cops , Police Interceptors etc , you could be forgiven for thinking that the boys in blue were all over the place . In real life I think they do those shows as propaganda . There are not enough Traffic cops ,

I would love to see more traffic plod on the road . When I was younger one of the biggest reasons you didn’t drive like a tool , was the omnipresent threat of a 3.5 Rover Jam Sandwich . In my mid life bike crisis , being pulled at silly speeds by a T5 battenburg ,driven by a big bloke with a beard , then and given a solid Censored with dire warnings was not unknown. .

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We goosed without trucks, the roads are for them really, the cars just have to make way as they can on the truck highways.

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