Hi guys. Getting to the time where I need some new tyres. Thinking about going up a size to help with ground clearance. Bit of a quandry really. If I stick at the normal size for 17" (235/65/17) I can't seem to find GG AT tyres anywhere in that size. However I like the look of Pirelli Scorpion ATR's because of the wet road rating being better than the Grabbers. But I can't get the Pirellis in the bigger size. So, do I go bigger and stick with Grabbers, or stay the same size and get the Pirellis?
Anyone got any experience of the Pirellis?
Cheers
Steven

This guy doesn’t agree with you on the Scorpion ATR’s ability on wet roads! 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

If you use your FL2 mainly on the road then the Scorpion Verde All Season has a much finer tread and better wet weather performance than the Scorpion ATR.
The Verde is classed as a touring tyre, while the ATR is all terrain.
I swapped to the Verde several years ago and have been very pleased with their wear, noise level and performance.
I qualify this with the fact I live in Somerset and I am likely to encounter more grass than snow. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

I’ve also been weighing up Verde All-Season versus ATR and concluded that i’ll look for the All-Season. While they both have reviews where individuals say they are dangerous in the wet on roundabouts, the only reviews that I have seen that mention snow rate both as equally good. 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

I've got the Pirelli Scorpion Atr's on mine and they're a very good Atr tyre , much quieter than the Ggat and better road behaviour wet and dry . The wifes got Michelin latitude cross on her Fl2 which previously had Ggat's on but the road noise was horrendous , the Michelins are in a different league altogether, the car is very quiet now .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (For now ?)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S

I have looked at the Verde all seasons but I'm after something more all terrain, most driving is on the road but when I do go offroad then I really need the At's. General have released the grabber at3 aswell, not sure about them though either. Why does the have to be so much choice

Ive just started a thread regarding the Grabber AT3, i fancy a set of these but were put off by the reviews of the older AT2 thread which was supposed to very loud. However over on the DISCO forum the AT3s get a very good write up, with a slightly lesser aggressive tread most say they are quieter but still handle multiple terrains very well. 2010 HSE SD4 in Santorini black
(Privacy glass, leather/heated seats, ICE, Verde AS M+S)

2002 Freelander GS TD4
(sold 2011)

I'm sticking with my sports/AT classified Cooper Zeon LTZ's in 275/45/20

Been running these on my D3, D4 & FL2 for the past 10 years and wouldn't run any other tyre.

 FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

Unfortunately I can't afford to switch to 20" wheels

If I'm going to go up a tyre size, is 235/70/17 ok to go for? gets me another 25mm clearance and the speed rating is the same as the normal size. Going up to a 245/70/17 drops the speed rating down which I'm not to keen on...

This tyre will have a slightly different circumference which means that your speedo will not be as accurate.

I have bf Goodrich AT 245\70\17 fitted and the Speedo reads same as my sat nav.

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Mudstuck, what speed rating are the tyres at? Did you tell your insurance?