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vrpoffset



Member Since: 26 Jan 2017
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Norway 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey
Front wipers stops until the car is locked/unlocked

I have a mysterious phenomenon in my 2007 HSE. The front wipers suddenly stops working while I'm driving and the only way to get them to work again is to stop the car, lock and unlock it with the remote key. Sadly it only works for a couple of minutes and then they're dead again. Does anyone have any idea what could possibly cause this problem?

Post #316368 27th Jan 2017 10:54 am
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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

I wonder if the motor is taking a higher current than normal and some automatic cutout is coming on? Does it happen on all settings (auto, manual, fast etc)? Might be worth an experiment to pull the wipers away from the windscreen to reduce the load and see if that makes a difference.
Alternatively is there a problem with the wiper stalk? I had a similar problem that affected my rear wiper which required the stalk to be replaced. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #316371 27th Jan 2017 11:21 am
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vrpoffset



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It happens no matter what setting is used. Rear wiper works fine and so does the front and rear washer. I pulled the wipers away but they still stopped after a minute or so.

But lock/unlock may have nothing to do with it as that doesn't work every time either now.

Post #316373 27th Jan 2017 12:27 pm
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SYFL2



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Maybe check fuse for wipers is clean and dry ?

Post #316375 27th Jan 2017 2:21 pm
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vrpoffset



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Thanks, I tried that too but it didn't help.

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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

When it stops, is it in the parked position? If it does then it must tell us something (like there is still power to the motor to get to the parking switch). is it possible to get the motor out easily?
I suppose you have done the big reset (battery disconnect, touch leads together for 30 seconds etc).

I once had a fault with my air con where, after the car was parked up for a couple of weeks in the cold the fan wouldn't start. The dealer said to do a reset for anything like this, fortunately it started coming to life again and after an hour or so all was well. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #316390 27th Jan 2017 8:11 pm
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Still Lost in France



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France 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey

Could it be that one of the shafts is binding in the bush?

It is a common problem on the rear wiper on X-Type Jaguars, it works for a few wipes then the heat generated by the friction seizes the shaft to the bush, which then releases when it all cools down.

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billio



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Have you tried a cold reset it sometimes fixes a lot of problems. Understeer when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower how fast you hit the wall.
Torque how far you take the wall with you.

Post #316416 28th Jan 2017 3:52 pm
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vrpoffset



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Still Lost in France wrote:
Could it be that one of the shafts is binding in the bush?

It is a common problem on the rear wiper on X-Type Jaguars, it works for a few wipes then the heat generated by the friction seizes the shaft to the bush, which then releases when it all cools down.


I'm starting to think that this is the most likely explanation. Wehn I leave the car over night or just for an hour or so
, the wipers work again ( but only for a few minutes).I suppose replacing the motor is the only option?

Post #316516 30th Jan 2017 10:39 am
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vrpoffset



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dorsetfreelander wrote:
When it stops, is it in the parked position? If it does then it must tell us something (like there is still power to the motor to get to the parking switch). is it possible to get the motor out easily?
I suppose you have done the big reset (battery disconnect, touch leads together for 30 seconds etc).

I once had a fault with my air con where, after the car was parked up for a couple of weeks in the cold the fan wouldn't start. The dealer said to do a reset for anything like this, fortunately it started coming to life again and after an hour or so all was well.


Yes, it stops in parked position every time. I didn't think of resetting -I'll definitely try that, thanks : )

Post #316517 30th Jan 2017 10:42 am
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Still Lost in France



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vrpoffset wrote:
I'm starting to think that this is the most likely explanation. Wehn I leave the car over night or just for an hour or so, the wipers work again ( but only for a few minutes).I suppose replacing the motor is the only option?


It would depend what's binding, it could be within the motor or could be anywhere in the linkage, although is as you say it always returns to the parked position, it's probably not that, the X-Type would stop anywhere.

I would be tempted to remove the linkage from the motor, run the wipers and see if it still stops after a few minutes.

The cure for the X-Type was to take the motor apart and clean-up the shaft and bush with emery paper.

Post #316537 30th Jan 2017 11:43 am
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Pedro



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England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Galway Green

I had this when the car was a couple of years old but my wipers stopped in the middle of the screen.

LR replaced the motor under warranty and no problems since. FL2 HSE Auto Galway Green
Evoque SD4 Auto Blue.
FL1 HSE TD4 Manual Black - Gone.
RR Classic V8 EFI - Gone

Post #316585 30th Jan 2017 7:55 pm
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p_gill



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Start simple

Disconnect the negative lead to the battery so that you don't short something out.

Then check the fuse and relays (engine compartment next to the battery)

First switch the Pink fuse with the red box with the pink fuse with the blue box

Then switch the black relay with the red box with the black relay with the blue box (do this for both black relays)

Then reconnect the negative lead for the battery.

If you switch the fuse and relay with the red box for the fuse and relay with the blue box then you can determine if you have a relay or fuse problem.

If nothing changes then it is unlikely that its a fuse or relay problem

If it was me this is the first thing that I would do.

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Note: I've already changed my relays and all of my fuses due to electrical gremlins that kept appearing.

After changing out fuses and relays and never leaving the key docked unless the engine was running I haven't had any more problems with the gremlins.


If the fuse and relay don't solve the problem then it is possible that the switch for parking the wipers is stuck and that is why the wipers keep parking when you want them to keep running.

But I would start with the solution above, it will take 5 minutes.

Happy Motoring

Paul

Post #316595 30th Jan 2017 10:51 pm
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